Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2023 14:29:47 -0500
Reply-To: Eric Caron <ericcaron96@COMCAST.NET>
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From: Eric Caron <ericcaron96@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Vanagon LEDs Flasher resolved
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Yes, If I left non LED bulbs in the front then the Relay you recommended works pretty well and the rear had LED turn lights. But I could not put LED in the front.
The Relay would make an unhappy constant noise.
But, with the one I purchased and gave the number for all LEDs in front and rear turn signals work correctly.
The one I ordered is the same number as the one I purchased from GW many years ago.
Eric Caron
> On Dec 29, 2023, at 11:54 AM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote:
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> The EP35 that I recommended is what GoWesty says will work for 80-97
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> (so maybe for some EuroVans also),,,
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> I’m Very curious about what did or didn’t happen with EP35 in Your 85,,
>
> The EP35 is what is working (for the most part) in My 90Westy but I do have
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> 1 issue that maybe the EP34 will resolve which is that the Front Turn/Running/
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> Parking lights need to be Non LED or I get some odd functioning of other LEDs,
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> The 34 & 35 have their B= & Ground flipped so that might well be the cause ~
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>
>
>> On 29 Dec , 2023, at 8:54 AM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
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>> Hi Jeff,
>>
>> I needed the aftermarket LED flasher to work with the LED flashers.
>>
>> Until I got the correct flasher I updated all the outside bulbs other than the flashers.
>>
>> For some reason the one recommended by river Rat from NAP didn’t work.
>>
>> Not sure if there is a difference for 85 and earlier vans but I doubt it.
>>
>> Happy new year.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 29, 2023, at 10:50 AM, Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Eric and happy new year in advance! So did you end up using the stock relay or aftermarket then?
>>> Thanks
>>> Jeff
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Dec 29, 2023, at 7:04 AM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi List,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to this list I found great LED bulbs for the van exterior. But the flashers didn’t work with the recommended relay.
>>>> I matched the numbers from the working LED flasher in my other van and ordered it from a place on line called SuperbrightLEDs.
>>>> CF13GL-02 LED Bulb Electronic Flasher - 3 Pin European Flasher - Black
>>>> SKU: CF13GL-02
>>>> 1 $11.99
>>>> It arrived and worked perfectly. The price was good and I expect they might have good bulbs as well.
>>>>
>>>> So, this is another list success in helping a member complete a Van improvement project.
>>>> I love the idea of brighter and safer bulbs, that likely last longer, and use less electrons.
>>>>
>>>> Eric Caron
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 18, 2023, at 2:51 PM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for this. And I easily located the flasher relay with these directions. And double check by listening and feeling it during operation.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, My LED update project hit a snag.
>>>>>
>>>>> I replaced all the exterior bulbs except the flashers.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried the flashers with the new relay and it didn’t work. The first flasher didn’t seem to be working.
>>>>>
>>>>> I exchanged the flasher relay and the second one operated but with all turn bulbs in place it just made a nasty noise. With only two LET turn bulbs in. Both in rear. The 4 ways worked correctly and the turn signals worked fast.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried cleaning all connections. I did this with a sighted friend. We also replaced one small spade connector that was in bad shape. And we cleaned up many connections. Nothing changed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think this relay is good but who knows. It works at least where as the first one did nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any tips on what to try to get the signals to work with LEB bulbs is appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the meantime my bulb connections got a good servicing and the bad connector is fixed so lots of good came out of the effort. Not to mention all the other outside bulbs are nice and bright.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric Caron
>>>>> Working on the 84 Westfalia
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2023, at 8:24 PM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On My 90 it is the farthest to the Passenger Side of Fuse/Relay block in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the 1st row above the Fuses ~
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just did a bit of digging to remind Myself & on the 80 - 85s the relays are
>>>>>>
>>>>>> on the back side of the Fuse Block & the Blinker Relay is the 1st 1 closest to the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Drivers side end of the Block ~
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 14 Nov , 2023, at 3:19 PM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net <mailto:ericcaron96@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why didn’t I think of that? That should work fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Typically is it located behind the fuse box or where something needs to first be moved out of the way?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’ll make time to check this out tomorrow. Good fun.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2023, at 4:58 PM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net <mailto:OlRivrRat@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Turn on Your blinkers & feel for the relay that is clicking,,,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As good as You probably are @ finding by feel, I’m guessing You
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> will find it much easier than most of the rest of us ~
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 14 Nov , 2023, at 11:28 AM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net <mailto:ericcaron96@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I got it with the help of a friend, located first try at local NAPA.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to give a try to describing the location of this relay so I can replace it and finish updating my LED exterior lights?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Friends commented that the ones I’ve changed so far are much brighter than the old ones. And I’m very happy about the reduction in voltage and increase in visibility.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eric Caron
>>>>>>>>> 84 Westfalia
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2023, at 12:30 AM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net <mailto:OlRivrRat@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Flasher Relay that is needed to stop Hyper Flashing LEDs is this 1,
>>>>>>>>>> Novita Turn Signal / Hazard Warning Flasher EP35
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> which can be found @ most FLAPs,,,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is an AutoZone prod’ page link > ClickThis <https://www.autozone.com/electrical-and-lighting/turn-signal-hazard-warning-flasher/p/novita-turn-signal-hazard-warning-flasher-ep35/849390_0_0>
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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