Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2024 17:59:56 -0800
Reply-To: David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
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From: David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Oven-baked paint finish
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Baking paint in an oven in the kitchen seems like a bad idea to me. What
about volatile organic carbons emitted into the indoor atmosphere?
On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 5:02 PM Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> Just a quick followup report to close this topic: Baking my part out in
> the sunshine for 6 hours did the trick! No tackiness, nice hard finish.
> So I believe baking is the key to getting superior results, like a factory
> might do. I even got the idea (for next project that won't fit into my
> kitchen oven) to utilize a corrugated cardboard box....with an incandescent
> light bulb inside...throws off just the right amount of heat to nicely bake
> paint, and the box serves nicely as an oven. (I've still got one or two of
> those old school bulbs laying around somewhere.)
>
> On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 08:05:51 PM PST, Richard Koerner <
> rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks Alistair. Here's another thing I learned...yesterday and today:
> DO NOT try to paint stuff in high humidity and low temperature. I got the
> goofy idea to refinish metal medicine cabinet and shelves. I followed
> directions.....successive light coats. Problem was, even here in San
> Diego, it is Winter! So that means 63 F days, and plenty of humidity that
> you guys up around the Island blow down to us!! Paint remained tacky even
> after 24 hours, still tacky. Ugh. OK....I need to bake out the solvents;
> tomorrow is supposed to be sunny. I will put painted metal medicine
> cabinet out in the sunshine all day, and see what happens. I tried using a
> small electric heater with fan to blow onto the project and that
> significantly helped. But, I will in the future wait for a weather
> forecast of strong sunshine and warmer days. Lesson learned: wait for
> proper conditions before painting.
>
> On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 06:07:16 PM PST, Alistair Bell <
> ragnarhairybreeks@icloud.com> wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
> You know by now that baking enamel type paint is a thing. Can be a rat
> hole of possibilities. But it does rely on the appropriate paint, old days
> it was oil based enamel type.
>
> Leaving aside jappaning. That’s baked but different.
>
> I don’t know about modern paints and baking. Certainly body shops bake
> paint to a degree, not what you were doing though
>
>
> Alistair
>
> > On Jan 2, 2024, at 10:52 AM, Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > OK....here's an oddball one I've never seen discussed.... Suppose you
> are restoring some small metal part. You've wirebrushed, sanded, primed,
> rattle can painted (oil based paint). I just did such a job restoring an
> old Bench Vise, and then somehow I got the idea to "oven bake" it. Man,
> did that ever turn out great! You can just feel it somehow. Finish seems
> incredibly strong. I just put parts on a foil covered cookie sheet, and
> put into 275-300 F oven for 20 minutes; after the fact, I did some Internet
> snooping and turns out my approach was nearly spot on. Apparently this
> enhances the polymers in the paint to weld themselves together somehow.
> Where I want to try this again is when I re-finish my Vanagon door handles,
> I want something perfect and super durable. I am also thinking of this
> approach for around the house projects. Anybody got any experience in oven
> baking small metal parts?
>
>
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