Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 10:43:38 -0700
Reply-To: Mark McCulley <mark@MARKMCCULLEY.COM>
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From: Mark McCulley <mark@MARKMCCULLEY.COM>
Subject: Re: Coolant hose blues, best replacement kit?
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What exactly is a “1.9 setup on a 2.3 GoWesty”? Is the 2.3 built on a 2.1 block? With oil cooler? If so you may need a mix of 1.9 and 2.1 hoses. Or maybe it’s just the 2.3 cylinders on a 1.9 block. Could be more complicated than just the standard 1.9 hose kit.
-Mark
> On May 9, 2024, at 10:24 AM, kenneth wilford (Van-Again) <kenwilfy@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> We do have the 1.9l coolant hose kits. Ours are all rubber which will last
> over 20 years normally.
>
> Ken
>
>> On Thu, May 9, 2024, 12:40 PM Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Dave,
>>
>> I didn’t know metal was original to the 84. They don’t seem rusty as they
>> came from a southern climate. The bus is clean of rust. But can’t see the
>> inside. Still, maybe just hoses might be in order.
>>
>> Friend found that only VC has a kit for the 1.9 but only the more
>> expensive one is in stock.
>>
>> I’m asking a friend to check Vanagain for me as I find the site a little
>> difficult with my screen reader. Fingers crossed Ken has a kit. I”m
>> leaning toward rubber hoses or a mix.
>>
>> All tips and info wanted.
>>
>> I’m told the heater hoses are a stock size but I’d rather git it from a
>> vender with correct length and clamps if possible along with the rest.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>>> On May 8, 2024, at 12:51 PM, ddbjorkman@verizon.net wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Eric.
>>>
>>> If an 84, those pipes may be original. Plastic pipes came later. If
>> pipes are rusty, it's a good chance they are original. The best change is
>> to the stainless-steel pipes. The plastic ones are cheaper, but the ends
>> the hoses attach to can fail with age and your hoses will disconnect. As
>> far as hoses, many feel the silicon ones are best to use as replacements.
>> If I remember you have had some experience with these and know the good and
>> bad of them.
>>> Just which vendor to use to supply the kit is a mystery to me. Bus
>> Depot and VanAgain are close, so shipping is quick and inexpensive, but I
>> have never bought coolant stuff from them.. Let's see what others think.
>>>
>>> Dave B.
>>> the Boston one
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 10:38:43 AM EDT, Eric Caron <
>> ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Listers,
>>>
>>> On a short trip from home billows of steam came out the back of
>> my 84. We quickly pulled into a safe pull off.
>>>
>>> I found fluid on the ground, and an empty coolant reservoir and
>> overflow tank. More drips by the rear passenger wheel, and a dissipating
>> steam cloud.
>>>
>>> I called my local vanagon shop and asked if I could drop it off. I
>> wanted to call as they are so busy that there is rarely a spot in the
>> parking lot for another van.
>>>
>>> Not only did the office manager say yes but she offered to come
>> help. I said know I would have them fix it. I was tempted to try to do a
>> road side repair but my wife was not interested.
>>>
>>> Not long later our friend arrived to rescue us, and as we waited
>> for the toe my Vanagon mechanic and wife showed up. They wanted to be sure
>> we were ok.
>>>
>>> Next day the van was put back together. A original heater hose
>> had split. He replaced that section and suggested I do a full replacement
>> in the near future.
>>>
>>> So, What kit for hose replacements are recommended by folks in this
>> group?
>>>
>>> This is a 1.9 set up on my GW 2.3.
>>>
>>> Pipes are metal not plastic so wondering if those are original and need
>> replacing, or if originals were plastic.
>>>
>>> If needing pipes again what are folks recommending?
>>>
>>> My radiator and the two hoses coming off it are new last year. So need
>> all other hoses to engine. And, likely pipes unless someone did those.
>> I’m not sure how to check.
>>>
>>> For me to do the job this winter I’d need a full kit with clamps and
>> such and a little help from this list.
>>>
>>> Engine Compartment hoses look very good, and a few, like those on the H
>> pipe I did replace. So need hoses from engine to the two hoses coming off
>> the radiator, and pipes. And other hoses I may not know about!
>>>
>>> As I’m doing the job in the winter I expect I’ll opt to also install an
>> updated metal reservoir. So, recommendations on that appreciated.
>>>
>>> But, most important now, is to find a complete kit to improve the
>> coolant hose and pipe reliability.
>>> I don’t know what I don’t know, so please share your recommendations and
>> experiences.
>>>
>>> VW should be ashamed the original hose only lasted 40 years and 250,000
>> miles.
>>>
>>> Eric Caron
>>> 84 1.9 set up.
>>
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