Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:41:11 +0000
Reply-To: Mike Miller <mwmiller6@ATT.NET>
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From: Mike Miller <mwmiller6@ATT.NET>
Subject: Re: Tire size question
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Good start Eric!
However, back when I actually got paid for working for a while a big part of my duties was designing and analyzing studies just like this...okay, kind of like this. So I have a few additional variables:
Wheels nuts, just think of what that weight does, being unsprung and all. To say nothing of wheel nut torque.Wind direction variability between runs.Headlight variables, think of how many different headlights are available and the immense difference in wind resistance, which must directly affect mpgNumber of spectators, and the individual differences in their enthusiasm for one or other participant.Magnetic declination of the moons of Jupiter
And so many, many more.
I think you need me to come supervise this trial. And then I'll need a second. And a reporting schema. The list goes on.
Can you tell that I worked for the government?
Mike
tee hee.
On Sunday, November 17, 2024 at 07:17:30 AM PST, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi Karl and others,
We could search for differences in the vans for days. And state this is not a scientifically valid study. But, to save time. I agree with that.
Still, Karl’s van is about the closest I’ll find to compare.
My less then scientific thinking is that if I’m getting 15 mpg with smaller tires and Karl gets 16.5 or better with larger tires. Then maybe.
If Karl ran tires smaller his MPG might go down some. If that is correct. Maybe increasing my tire diameter to match Karl’s might increase my Mpg some.
I know we could talk about tire friction, type of roads near Karl and me, and temperature differences, type of gas we put in the tank, and how I weigh more then Karl.
But, is it kind of possible that there really is something to the wheel diameter and MPG?
Remember all the 1970 adds telling us to be sure our tires were inflated? Were they tricking me? OK they probably were.
OK, the tire inflation might be about friction not diameter of tire, they didn’t say.
I think the solution is that Karl should drive over here to VT and we do a drive side by side with the vans, then we switch wheels and do it again. Both at the same time of day, gas from the same station, and the vans matched for weight.
No bra on either van, same mirrors, same wax on the body.
We can do this!
Karl, we can do it before West River Westies July 2025.
And your van sounds nice. How did you ever end up with that engine? I only recently learned about those European versions of our water boxers.
Eric
> On Nov 17, 2024, at 2:26 AM, Karl Mullendore <tdiguru@WESTYVENTURES.COM> wrote:
>
> Other factors are mine is a Multivan poptop, at 4300 feet, and a good running
> 112i with factory Digijet, totally stock except for the 4-hole injectors. You
> have a slightly larger engine at sea level running GW's whatever they threw
> together which may or may not achieve as good mileage ever.
> Karl
