Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:56:11 -0800
Reply-To: David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
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From: David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Tire size question
In-Reply-To: <7240465d-13bd-4940-b1e9-98965442d12e@westyventures.com>
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Karl, I was just stating the difference between you and me given the things
you stated about the van. I am by nature a cautious individual. I did not
say, "push it off on" someone else. I said, "push it to someone else."
There is a difference in meaning. Let's drop it, shall we?
On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 1:35 PM Karl <tdiguru@westyventures.com> wrote:
> You read too much into every word. Or you just have some looney axe to
> grind against me, for which I say 'bugger off' although I am thinking
> much harsher words. 😛
>
> Let me try again:
> THIS VAN IS NOT A RUST BUCKET. Yes, it does have minor rust in the
> rockers and a few seams. Most Vanagons east of the Rockies do. I've
> owned in excess of 40 Vanagons and have worked on them since 1982
> professionally so I think 'I know a thing or two'.
>
> NOW I plan to "push it off on someone"? HUH??? What the H E
> doubletoothpicks are you talking about? I HAVE ZERO PLANS TO SELL IT.
> I've had several sets of friends borrow it for events and one for a
> 2-month PNW explorative trip and ALL LOVED IT and said it was one of the
> best driving Westies they've driven. 😛
>
>
> On 11/17/2024 1:06 PM, David McNeely wrote:
> > I don't "know nothing about" your van "at all."Â I know what you told
> > me. Safety aside, for reason of the things you described, I would not
> > (and would not have from the beginning) kept (or acquired in the first
> > place) the vehicle. That you did and plan to push it to someone else
> > is YOUR action. Mine would be different.
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 12:35 PM Karl <tdiguru@westyventures.com> wrote:
> >
> > HUH? What? Are you making a judgement of something you know nothing
> > about? Wow.
> >
> > EVERYTHING SAFETY + MECHANICALLY RELATED WAS REPAIRED, I AM NOT AN
> > IDIOT!
> > There are ZERO safety issues in this Westy! Leaks have been sealed as
> > they pop up, the auto trans is the current culprit, a bit of
> > 'wack-a-mole'. It drives as nicely as any Westy you'll find. Front
> > brakes are now Audi A6.
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/JD6nnDNE1aT4KRuSA
> >
> >
> > On 11/17/2024 12:12 PM, David McNeely wrote:
> > > And tell us again why this vehicle is kept on the road at all?
> > >
> > > On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 11:55 AM Karl
> > <tdiguru@westyventures.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >Â Â Â It's highly unlikely my Westy will ever find its way across
> the
> > >Â Â Â country
> > >Â Â Â again, given the current canine family size and the Westy
> > leaking
> > >Â Â Â almost
> > >Â Â Â every fluid, haha! It's also in the queue for a conversion
> > to mTDI,
> > >Â Â Â Syncro manual transmission and Syncro tank in the near
> > future, which
> > >Â Â Â will take the mpg to 30-ish and 1000-mile range.
> > >
> > >Â Â Â It isn't a really nice van overall, as it came via the samba
> > from
> > >Â Â Â Minnesota where it was exposed to a lot of salt underneath.
> > I had to
> > >Â Â Â replace every part of the braking system and many other
> > rusted parts
> > >Â Â Â underneath. Some rust in the rockers, hidden by the
> > fiberglass panels.
> > >Â Â Â The transmission had a galley plug rusted out, which I
> > discovered
> > >Â Â Â when I
> > >Â Â Â filled the transmission. That was fixed with a rubber plug
> > and a metal
> > >Â Â Â clamp bolted into a nearby bolt hole. The engine had a
> cobbled
> > >Â Â Â together
> > >Â Â Â mess of original pipes and undersized patches welded in. The
> > first
> > >Â Â Â drive, the oil buzzer came on when hot. At the time a friend
> > who does
> > >Â Â Â conversion had a Euro DJ 112i engine he had just pulled
> from a
> > >Â Â Â customer
> > >Â Â Â van, available for $600 with wiring harness and ECU so I
> > jumped on it.
> > >Â Â Â It will be for sale after the TDI conversion is finished.
> > >
> > >
> > >Â Â Â On 11/17/2024 7:17 AM, Eric Caron wrote:
> > >Â Â Â > Hi Karl and others,
> > >Â Â Â >
> > >Â Â Â >ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ Â We could search for differences in the vans
> for
> > days.Â
> > >Â Â Â AndÂÂ state this is not a scientifically valid study. But,
> > to save
> > >Â Â Â time.ÂÂ I agree with that.
> > >Â Â Â >
> > >Â Â Â > Still, Karl’s van is about the closest I’ll find to
> compare.
> > >Â Â Â >
> > >Â Â Â > My less then scientific thinking is that if I’m getting
> 15 mpg
> > >Â Â Â with smaller tires and Karl gets 16.5 or better with larger
> > tires.
> > >Â Â Â Then maybe.
> > >Â Â Â >
> > >Â Â Â > If Karl ran tires smaller his MPG might go down some.ÂÂ
> If
> > that
> > >Â Â Â is correct.ÂÂ Maybe increasing my tire diameter to match
> Karl’s
> > >Â Â Â might increase my Mpg some.
> > >Â Â Â >
> > >Â Â Â > I know we could talk about tire friction, type of roads
> near
> > >Â Â Â Karl and me, and temperature differences, type of gas we
> put in
> > >Â Â Â the tank, and how I weigh more then Karl.
> > >Â Â Â >
> > >Â Â Â > But, is it kind of possible that there really is
> something to
> > >Â Â Â the wheel diameter and MPG?
> > >Â Â Â >
> > >Â Â Â > Remember all the 1970 adds telling us to be sure our tires
> > were
> > >Â Â Â inflated?ÂÂ Were they tricking me?ÂÂ OK they probably
> were.
> > >Â Â Â >
> > >Â Â Â > OK, the tire inflation might be about friction not
> diameter of
> > >Â Â Â tire, they didn’t say.
> > >Â Â Â >
> > >Â Â Â > I think the solution is that Karl should drive over here
> to VT
> > >Â Â Â and we do a drive side by side with the vans, then we switch
> > >Â Â Â wheels and do it again.ÂÂ Both at the same time of day,
> gas from
> > >Â Â Â the same station, and the vans matched for weight.
> > >Â Â Â >
> > >Â Â Â > No bra on either van, same mirrors, same wax on the body.
> > >Â Â Â >
> > >Â Â Â > We can do this!
> > >Â Â Â >
> > >Â Â Â > Karl, we can do it before West River Westies July 2025.
> > >Â Â Â >
> > >Â Â Â > And your van sounds nice.ÂÂ How did you ever end up with
> that
> > >Â Â Â engine? I only recently learned about those European
> versions of
> > >Â Â Â our water boxers.
> > >Â Â Â >
> > >Â Â Â > Eric
> > >Â Â Â >
> > >Â Â Â >
> > >Â Â Â >> On Nov 17, 2024, at 2:26 AM, Karl Mullendore
> > >Â Â Â <tdiguru@WESTYVENTURES.COM> wrote:
> > >Â Â Â >>
> > >Â Â Â >> Other factors are mine is a Multivan poptop, at 4300
> > feet, and
> > >Â Â Â a good running
> > >Â Â Â >> 112i with factory Digijet, totally stock except for the
> > 4-hole
> > >Â Â Â injectors. You
> > >Â Â Â >> have a slightly larger engine at sea level running GW's
> > >Â Â Â whatever they threw
> > >Â Â Â >> together which may or may not achieve as good mileage
> ever.
> > >Â Â Â >> Karl
> > >
> >
>
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