Date:         Sat, 16 Apr 1994 13:58:51 -0400 (EDT)
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@vanagon.com>
From:         WILDCELT@delphi.com
Subject:      Re: The Suburban saga continues....A

> And I definitely see alot more of
>the competition on the road than I do see of the EV.  

It is because they have a better product on the road.

> VW definately has some marketing problems in the US, thats a given,
> however, it does not have problems in other markets. The T4 van
> which is the EuroVan designation, is already out selling T3s or
> Vanagons, back in the home markets (if you compare units per
> year). So obviously VW is doing something right.

Europeans also buy a lot of Fiats, and you don't see them in our market
anymore.

> So lets get to the meat of the arguement. I have been the proud owner
> of a EuroVan for 15 months now, and have 20k miles on it. We bought
> it because it had more room inside than a Dodge Caravan. Just park 
> them side by side and it doesn't take an Einstein to see which is
> bigger....the EuroVan...by at least 40%. Hell I can even see the 
> top of a Caravan from the driver's seat in the EuroVan.

The size of the van does not make it a better product. Chrysler has 50% if
not more of the market, because of one thing,,,,, a better product.


> Ever try sitting 7 grown adults in a Caravan in anything resembling
> comfort? Face it the caravan is nothing than a shrunk down body
> on a compact car floor pan. You have no real shoulder or leg
> room. Forget about luggage room. If you take 7 people in a 
> caravan, you won't have much room for luggage.

How many times are the vehicles used to carry seven adults, (we know that
they are grown) Caravans have roof racks for luggage.