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Date:         Mon, 22 Aug 94 20:28:48 CDT
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From:         Joel Walker <JWALKER@ua1vm.ua.edu>
Subject:      Re: 20cm Kombis???

On Mon, 22 Aug 94 17:45:19 CDT Ralf MacGrady said: >> 74 Bus 5 >This here's good ol' Ralferoonie up in Canada and after checking >my VIN again I realize that the Beast is actually a Kombi. It >remains a '74 however... Btw, something that I didn't realize

grumble, grumble, #$%@* :( <some people can't make up their minds!>

>before: The Kombis are shorter! By, uh, 20cms. or something. >If you look at the back of the Haynes and check the dimensions >you'll see it. I'd state the exact amount but left the book at >the farm... Danke.

uhhhhh. ??? well, that's not my understanding (that they are shorter). now i think Haynes might be wrong in that. i'm looking in my Big Book of All VW Types/Models and it says: 1967-1972 Kastenwagen, Kombi, Krankenwagen, 4420 mm in overall length Achtsitzer, Pritschenwagen, 174 inches, 14.5 feet Doppelkabine, etc. 1971-1972 Actsitzer L 4445 mm in overall length 175 inches, 14.6 feet 1972-1978 Kastenwagen, Kombi, Krankenwagen, 4505 mm in overall length Achtsitzer, Pritschenwagen, 177 inches, 14.8 feet Doppelkabine, Achtsitzer L, etc. 1973-1975 Achtsitzer L (automatik) 4545 mm in overall length 179 inches, 14.9 feet 1979-1982 Kastenwagen, Kombi, Krankenwagen, 4570 mm in overall length Pritschenwagen, Doppelkabine, etc. 180 inches, 15.0 feet (this is the vanagon body style) 1979 Grossraum-Holzpritsche (automatik) 4636 mm in overall length 182 inches, 15.2 feet 1981 Grossraum-Pritschenwagen 4640 mm in overall length 182 inches, 15.2 feet so what the heck does all this mean? well, a Grossraum-Pritschenwagen is a wide-body single cab pickup truck that has extended width bed in back, so it looks like it is longer as well.

an Achtsitzer is an 8-seater bus, but what exactly an Achtsitzer L is and why it is longer, i don't know. bigger bumpers?

so *I* think Haynes is wrong. they got the big pickup mixed up with the Kombi, or got centimeters mixed up with millimeters or something. cause 20cm = 200mm = 7.9 inches! :)

now, what i always thought was neat (and actually won money betting people) is this:

1968-1971 bus 4420mm 174 inches 14.5 feet 1972-1979 bus 4505mm 175 inches 14.6 feet 1980-1991 vanagon 4570mm 180 inches 15.0 feet 1970-1982 Beetle 4080mm 160 inches 13.4 feet 1970-1974 K.Ghia 4140mm 163 inches 13.6 feet 1974-1980 Rabbit 3705mm 146 inches 12.2 feet (2-door model) 1974-1980 Rabbit 3815mm 150 inches 12.5 feet (4-door model)

anyway, most folks do NOT believe that the bus is only 1 foot longer than the beetle. unless you put both cars up against a wall, side by side. and even the vanagon is just 1.5 feet longer. it's really wierd that the rabbit is so short.

joel


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