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Date:         Fri, 26 Aug 94 00:09:25 CDT
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From:         Joel Walker <JWALKER@ua1vm.ua.edu>
Subject:      article on A/C retrofit to R-134a (new freon)

found this in a magazine. thought it might be interesting: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Conditioner Retrofit Update Paul Weissler - Home Mechanix, September 1994

At least one major manufacturer of ozone-depleting R-12 refrigerants will continue production right up to the December 31, 1995 phase-out deadline. This has allowed carmakers and A/C shops to stockpile R-12. But even though supplies remain plentiful, the cost of an R-12 recharge has risen. It's now $125-150. Meanwhile, price estimates for a basic R-134a retrofit have dropped to about the same level.

We'll show why switching to R-134a can make financial sense when your R-12 A/C systems springs a leak. We'll also detail the parts involved for all the major brands, discuss which systems are still expensive to switch ... and how much you'll pay.

Warranty Woes Since most U.S. and import carmakers still have enough R-12 to meet warranty needs, most will simply fix existing systems without switching them to R-134a. A notable exception is Volvo. The Swedish automaker has destroyed its leftover R-12 and offers retrofits for all of its R-12 vehicles. As a training program for dealers, GM will be offering owners of 1991 to 1993 Buick LeSabres and Olds 88s under warranty a choice between an R-12 repair or a switch to R-134a.

Still, most car owners who want or need a retrofit will probably have to pay for it. Some may weigh the costs and decide to stick with R-12, especially if a recharge comes under warranty. Unfortunately, R-12 systems could leak again later on when the cost of an R-12 fill-up will probably be considerably higher.

Another retrofit incentive: While recharge cans of R-12 are no longer available to consumers, you can buy R-134a, along with kits that allow you to recharge your own system.

Low-Cost Conversions Long-term testing has shown that R-134a swaps aren't as involved as industry experts had believed. Only repaired hoses with barb fittings and worm-drive clamps must be replaced. And most refrigeration-line fitting seals can stay.

Many existing compressors and compressor-shaft seals were thought to be victims of the refrigerant shift over. Nippondenso claimed the shaft seals on almost all of its compressors would leak too much with R-134a. But their tests proved too severe. Now it seems only a few compressors will need replacing. The major ones include: * The Techumseh HR-980 used on many Ford vehicles through 1989. * The Panasonic/Matsushita compressor used on many Mazdas and the Mazda-engineered Ford Probe through 1993. * The Seiko-Seiki compressors used on some Japanese and European cars. * The Sanden compressors used on five-cylinder Volvos.

Correcting Compressors Problem compressors use seals made of Viton, a synthetic rubber that isn't compatible with R-134a. Check the label attached to your car's compressor to see if it's on the list. If it is, here are the fixes: * Replace the Tecumseh unit with a Ford FS-6 compressor. You can get the adapter kit from your dealer. * Swap the Panasonic/Matsushita compressor for a 1994 model, which is R-134a compatible. * Switch the Seiko-Seiki unit for an R-134a model from 1993 or later. * The Sanden compressors in Volvos only use Viton in the shaft seal, and replacing that part is a routine job for an A/C specialist. Cost is $110 to $175.

Even if your car has a problem compressor that isn't covered above, or the recommended fix is too expensive, you still have options. A/C shops can use a compressor conversion kit and adapt a rebuilt R-12 Sanden or Zexel unit for your car. In some cases, they can even install an R-134a Sanden compressor. These swaps average about $350.

Be sure the technician checks your car's A/C system with an electronic leak detector that meets the new standards set by the Society of Automotive Engineers. Technicians whould also use a high-performance vacuum pump to ensure that no traces of R-12 are left in the system. Service shops that belong to the Mobile Air Conditioning Society (215 541-4500) are your best bet.

Climate Concerns R-134a has smaller molecules than R-12 and operates at higher pressures. As part of a retrofit, have the shop install a high-pressure cutout switch that disengages the compressor if system pressures get too high. You may temporarily lose A/C when driving in heavy traffic on hot days, but it's probably worth it since adding a fan or high-performance condenser can get expensive. Front-wheel drive cars may not need the installation since many already have the switch.

Oil Options The mineral oil that lubricates R-12 A/C systems doesn't mix with R-134a's synthetic oil, so retrofits include a new synthetic oil. A/C technicians choose between two categories: poly alkylene glycol (PAG) and polyol esters.

All new car systems use some form of PAG. Most car makers' retrofit programs specify a particular PAG, though Volvo uses an ester. You can avoid a mix-up by making sure the technician attaches a label to a retrofitted system stating which oil and refrigerant it contains. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For More Information, Contact:

Castrol Industries, Inc. (215) 433-5220 775 Louis Dr. <sidebar shows Castrol Icematic Retro100 Dept. HM994 oil, seals, new valves, and sticker in Warminster, PA 18974 a kit>

Mobile Air Conditioning Society (MACS) (215) 541-4500 Box 97 Dept. HM994 E. Greenville, PA 18041 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Which System Needs What*

Vehicle/System # Parts Needed## Price (includes Labor) ........................ Chrysler ................................ 1988-93 all except below Receive-dryer~, high $150-190 plus $35 for pressure switch if high-pressure cutout needed switch 1988-92 Eagle Premier, Accumulator, high- $225-275 Dodge Monaco pressure cutout switch ........................ Ford .................................... 1988-93 with orifice- Accumulator, high- $180-220 plus $35 for tube system and Ford pressure cutout high-pressure cutout or Nippondenso switch if needed switch compressor 1988-93 with Panasonic/ Same as above plus $950-$1000@ Matsushita R-12 R-134a Panasonic/ compressor Matsushita compressor 1985-89 with Tecumseh Accumulator, high- $850-900@ compressor pressure cutout switch, FS-6 compressor conversion kit ........................ General Motors .......................... 1988-93 all except High-pressure cutout $90-130 plus $35 for Saturn switch on rear-drive high-pressure cutout models switch 1990-93 Saturn No additional parts $90 necessary ........................ Mazda ................................... 1988-93 Receive-dryer~, high- $150-190 plus $35 for pressure cutout switch high-pressure cutout if needed switch 1988-93 with Panasonic/ Accumulator, high- $950-1000 Matsushita R-12 pressure cutout switch compressor on cars not so equipped and R-134a Panasonic/ Matsushita compressor ........................ Mitsubishi .................................. 1988-93 Receive-dryer^, high- $150-190 plus $35 for pressure cutout switch high-pressure cutout if needed switch ........................ Nissan ...................................... 1988-93 Receive-dryer^, high- $150-190 plus $35 for pressure cutout switch high-pressure cutout if needed switch ........................ Subaru ...................................... 1988-93 Receive-dryer^, high- $150-190 plus $35 for pressure cutout switch high-pressure cutout if needed switch ........................ Toyota ...................................... 1988-93 Receive-dryer^, high- $150-190 plus $35 for pressure cutout switch high-pressure cutout if needed switch ........................ Volvo ....................................... 1985-91 with Sanden Volvo retrofit kit with $275-325 compressor accumulator, new shaft seal for compressor 1985-91 with Volvo retrofit kit $150 Nippondenso compressor

* - These figures are estimates based on interviews with A/C parts suppliers and technicians. Information reflects parts available and modesl covered by the aftermarket industry as of this writing. Parts and procedures may change and additional models will be covered as new parts and information become available. # - Determine which compressor is on your vehicle by checking the label attached to it. ##- In addition to standard retrofit kit parts, which include fittings, compressor label, O-rings and lubricant. @ - $485-600 if A/C shop adapts a Sanden or Zexel compressor. ~ - Deduct $60 for cars less than three years old, since they don't need a receive-dryer.


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