The scissor type tool that presses out the joint is best, but they tend to break or bend if you use too much force. I have used a pickle fork attatchment on an air-chisel. Works great on really stuborn joints but its a last resort. Joints sometimes pop apart after a stategically aimed tap with a hammer on the end of the torsion arm. But if a light tap doesn't work straight away, whacking the hell out of it wont either. Get a proper tool instead. Andy E. A.C.Erskine@lut.ac.uk
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