To Dereck and others: Y'all (Joel's influence) probably know about the www page for South African servers--> http://www.is.co.za/www-za.html but someone there may be able to help you ferret out this info you seek. They do have a "Digital Cafe" one might pick up a conversation with. Don't have time to fart around with it my self but I did 'pop in' for a look-see. Lots of computer/university stuff (surprise).
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