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Date:         Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:46:35 -0400
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@vanagon.com>
From:         drew@interport.net (Derek Drew)
Subject:      battery types (article)

>From: ChrisRosen@aol.com >Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:46:56 -0400 >To: drew@interport.net >Subject: batts > >Car Batteries > >( by Michael Naum <miken@silvaco.com> July 93 ) > >>If I remember my physics (or was it chemestry) correctly, batteries will >>hold a charge better and your electrics will work better in the cold. > >The battery will continue to store charge but it will be useless at low >temperatures. This is why. > >A bit of battery physics.... > >As temperatures are lowered in a battery, ion mobility (the carriers of >charge) >and electron reaction rates are reduced. Thus most liquid batteries cannot >produce the same amount of energy at lower temperatures. If the electrolyte >freezes then ionic mobility will be lowered to the point that the battery >is basically useless. This will probably not happen too often because >batteries have awfull thermal conductivity so they never reach the ambient >temperature unless of course you live in Alaska and leave it parked >on a glacier the entire winter!! The other interesting thing about >batteries is that at lower temperatures there is increased internal >resistance. If you leave something small plugged in (like a radar detector) >it will draw current. This current will flow through this internal resistor >creating heat. This in turn will keep the battery warm. But it will drain >some juice out of your battery. > >Heating a battery produces the opposite effect. The battery will yield >more. The only problem is the electrons tend to go crazy and cause the >battery to self destruct. I had the unpleasant experience of having a >battery that was boiling BLOW UP in my house garage. Luckily the hood >was up and I was behind my CJ. There was acid everywhere and my ears >were ringing for about an hour. A boiling battery can produce a substantial >amount of Hydrogen gas. Thus creating a small non-nuclear H-BOMB capable >of burning you, your vehicle, and anything in its path. Avoid a boiling >battery at all costs........... > > >============================================================================== >= > >Battery Storage Capacity > >( by Daniel I. Applebaum <danapple@vicor.com> > 31Oct94 ) > >Information from "The Complete Battery Book" by Richard A. Perez. >Copyright 1985. ISBN 0-8306-0757-9 > >Four types of Lead-Acid batteries concern us for vehicular purposes, >automotive starting, low antimony deep-cycle, high antimony >deep-cycle, and gel-cells. I'll go over characteristics of each. > >But first, a general note: >A) The storage capacity (ampere-hour rating) of a battery is a function >of the surface area of the plates exposed to the chemicals. > >1) Automotive Starting Batteries >It has one job only: to start your car. An average car uses more than >300 amps for a few seconds in order to start. The batteries are >constructed with a large number of thin plates of lead sponge. This >provides maximum surface area. The batteries handle only very shallow >cycling, on the order of 1% in normal use. The starting battery will >fail after approx. 100 cycles of 50%. Complete failure at 200 cycles. >The sponge disintegrates with the repeated full charge and discharge >chemical reactions. Lead particles separate from the plates and form >micro-short circuits inside the battery. This highly increases the >self-discharge rate. Maintenence-free batteries have added calcium to >the lead sponges to harden them and reduce water loss. The calcium >also increases the internal resistance, hence slowing self-discharge. >The expected lifetime of a starting battery in true starting use is >3-5 years. In deep-cycle service, expect less than 2 years. > >2) Low Antimony Deep Cycle Batteries >These are run-of-the-mill "marine/RV deep-cycle" batteries. It's a >compromise between a starting battery and a true deep-cycle battery. >They are much closer to starting batteries, however. The plates are >somewhat thicker than starting batteries and have some added antimony. >It is not designed for powering large loads for a long time. >Deep-cycling will damage it, over time. In RV use, with usually no >more than 20% discharge, the battery should last 200-400 cycles. If >cycled 80%, expect a lifetime of less than 200 cycles, or about the >same as the starting battery. The thicker plates and antimony add a >bit of mechanical strength over the standard starting battery. In >float service, the battery will last 5-10 years, much greater than >starting batteries used in float service. > >3) High Antimony Deep Cycle Batteries >This type is designed to be 80% cycled repeatedly for 5-15 years. >There is almost no mechanical similarity between this battery and a >starting battery. They are massive and huge. There are very few true >deep cycle batteries with greater than 6 volts, as they would be too >heavy to move by hand. The grids are over 4 times thicker than a >starting battery's grids. And there is several times the amount of >antimony in the grids. The plates are thick to add lifetime, not >capacity. (See A). The plates are not constructed of sponge, but of >scored sheets of lead with up to 16% antimony. The thickness of the >plates combined with the high antimony content lowers the energy >density, so this battery is heavier, larger and much more costly per >kilowatt-hour. The case is also much thicker, and the plates usually >leave a 1-3 inch space at the bottom to allow for accumulation of lead >particles, so that they don't cause micro-shorts. The top of the case >also has more space to allow for expansion of the electrolyte. Plates >can be removed and serviced. As the cell interconnect straps are >exposed, each cell's voltage can be measured individually. This >allows the user to determine when an equalizing charge is necessary. >Some batteries have "wrapped" plates, where perforated plastic is >wrapped around the plates to keep the lead on them longer. Such a >configuration add 25-35% to the lifetime of the battery. Such >batteries are mostly used for electric vehicles, which force a fast >80% or more discharge. They are then recharge much more slowly. A >350 amp-hr 12 volt battery weighs 250 pounds and contains 4.5 gallons >of sulphuric acid. They can be cycled 80% between 1000 and 2000 >times. Lifetime should be 5-15 years. > >4) Gel Cells >This type is designed for portability. They are small and have a >jellied electrolyte. The case is sealed. The jellied electrolyte >allows the use of this battery in any orientation. They are used >often in aircraft and electronics. They are supposed to be clean and >usuable where acid vapors and spills are unacceptable. They can be >deep-cycled over long periods. They must not be charged or discharged >too rapidly, otherwise it can gas, possibly blowing the sealed case. >They are prone to sulfation if left discharged for a long time. With >proper care, a gel-cell will deliver 1000 cycles over a period of 5 >years or more. > > > ___________________________________ Derek Drew drew@interport.net (main address for e-mail) derekdrew@aol.com (alternate/backup address, checked infrequently)


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