Ok, here's a dimensioned drawing of the lock cylinder I'm looking for, and the ones that come in the new Brazilian baywindow door handles and one I picked up at the Antonio VW parts counter. Bottom line, the old cylinder is smaller in diameter than new ones (0.470" versus 0.530"), and the crowns of the wafers are wider (0.168" versus 0.208"). So I'm going to try finding old 0.47" cylinders when I visit the junkyard, then see if I can make a new tail-end piece to fit, since the new ones, at least, are shorter enough that I think there's space. Looks like I'll have to cut back some of the boss on the end, but I don't think this is that big a problem. There's a lot of metal between the end of the keyway and the end of the boss. Of course, I'm going to try all the local lock shops, and I'd ask if any of you have a box of lock cylinders, or see some, to look for these jewels! I'd be happy to pay for one or two cylinders, with or without keys, as long as they're intact!
Cylinder from "Witte 261 829 561C" latch on my '70 single-cab. This is what I want to replace!
-->| |<-- 0.300" -->| | |<--- 1.616" -->| | | |<---- 1.830" ----___n_n_n_n_n_______ | | --- | | | | | | | |___________________--- ----" " " " " "
| | ----______________________ _v_v | | o o o o o ___| ____ | # |||||||||| ,,,,, | ^ | # |||||||||| ''''' | | 0.174" | |______________^____ __ ---- / ^ / | 0.470" slot through keyway
| 0.610" v | 0.348" ---- ----n_n_n_n_n_n________ v | | --- ---- | | | | | | # | | | |_________________#_--- ---- ---- ---- " " " " " ^ ^ ^ \ | | \ trench for retaining screw / / ----_________________v_ | | o o o o o # | | | |||||||||| ,,, # | | | |||||||||| ''' # |__ | |_____________^________| ---- / / slot through keyway
Crowns of wafers: 0.168" X 0.040" Trench to edge to end of cylinder 0.100" Width of trench: 0.076"
Cylinder from new Brazilian door handle -->| |<-- 0.251" -->| ||<-- 0.310" -->| || |<-- 1.333" -->| || | |<-- 1.660" -->|__|| | | | --___n_n_n_n_n__| | |<-- 1.731" | || --..|_| | || # | | | | || # | | | | ||______________--''"" |__--" " " " " " 0.564" | | 0.688" 0.530" 0.390" v v__ __ | | --- | --___n_n_n_n_n__ _______v v | 0.234" | || --..__ --- ___v | || # | | | | || # | | | ___ | ||______________--''""____--- ^ ---___ |__--" " " " " " ^ ^ | ^ ^ | | | | Flats of boss - 0.234" Height of boss - 0.070" Crowns of wafers: 0.209" X 0.040"
Cylinder from dealership spare cylinder box:. (The Corrado key fits this...) -->| |<-- 0.193" -->| | |<-- 0.320" -->| | | |<-- 1.35" -->| | | | |<-- 1.660" -->| | | | | |`---___n_n_n_n_n__| | |<-- 1.743" | | | --..|_| | | | | | | | | | | |______________--''"" |,---" " " " " " 0.571" | | 0.670" v v__ | 0.533 --- |`---___n_n_n_n_n__ _______v | 0.238" | | | --..__ _____v | | | | | | | |______ | | |______________--''""____ ^ ---___ |,---" " " " " " ^ | ^ ^ | | | Flats of boss - 0.238" Height of boss - 0.078 Crowns of wafers: 0.208" X 0.043
Obvious kludge plans: Build a little extension that uses a common door lock and drives the cargo latch: __ | --___n_n_n_n_n__ | || --..__ Common door lock | || # | | | ===================================================================== | | |||||||||| ''' # |__ Desired rare cargo door lock | |______________________| ----
Cheers! Bill
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