Uh, before Gerry jumps in and clamps the lid on this *fascinating* Hog Ring thread, you enthusiasts might want to be aware of a special forum specifically dedicated to the exploration of this endlessly engaging subject: rec.autos.vw.hog.rings (hey, it's on *my* newserver ;-) - call your IP!) Just another great reason why THIS WILL NEVER BE A NEWGROUP!!!! Steve Hog(e) '77 Pork Loaf '89 Syncro GL
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