Date:         Tue, 07 Nov 1995 16:04:00 -0800 (PST)
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@vanagon.com>
From:         "Maher, Steve (SD-MS)" <SMAHER@PO2.GI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Why VW's + T&A?


>>> Apparently the T & A magazines do research on this and "most" of
>>> their male reading public do want the T & A pix in the mags.  What
>>> is true, however, is that approximately 12% of the reader base
>>> is female.  Perhaps it would not be a bad idea for them to poll
>>> their female readers and see if they would like Brad Pitt type
>>> people posing with the cars.  To be "fair," they could then feature
>>> 12% of their photos in such a light.
>>>
>>>
>> Hey Martha. I agree whole heartedly. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing a
>> Brad Pitt type posing with a car, or with a product in an advertisement.
>> I wouldn't be so pinheaded to decide a product's worth by the person
>> standing next to it in the ad. That is to be decided by reputation, and
>> by asking you guys at Lenti their opinions. I wouldn't spend as much
>> time on a page with Brad standing in his g-string, but I certainly would
>> have no problem with that. I like to think I'm completely politically
>> incorrect, and proud of it!
>>
>>
>You may not be a pinhead about determing the worth of your auto parts,
>but your stance on the scantily clad women in magizines and ads leads me
>to believe differently about how you determine the worth of other human
>beings.  If you MUST partake in the degradation of women, buy magazines
>devoted to that,                    ^^^^^^^^^^^


Uh, did I miss something?
Where did any of these people degrade anyone?

Or was that a general comment? In  which case, I must ask, since when is
admiring someone's looks "degrading"? I often admire women, and I'm 
certainly
not "degrading" them by doing so. And if/when a woman admires me (a rare
event indeed), I feel complimented, not degraded.

Come on, friends. Admiring someone isn't a crime, or even a bad thing.
Doing something about it, is another matter, though, depending on how
and why. We all know these things, don't we?

(Stepping down off soapbox)

 -Steve Maher   smaher@gi.com   '71 VW Transporter w/big windshield & great
                                      view of pedestrians
                               '80 V6anagon, not delevered yet, but w/even
                                      bigger windshield, hot damn