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Date:         Tue, 16 Apr 1996 10:19:00 -0400
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From:         Tom Forhan <tforhan@usa.pipeline.com>
Subject:      Number Detective Work (was RE: Splitty Chassis/dating)

David Eccles said:

>Easiest if you check out the NEATO web site - it contains info on datind and >deciphering plates and also has paint codes M nos model nos ..and a whole >bunch of intersting stuff.

Dave is talking about http://www.mindspring.com/~deasterw/neato.html I had used that site to decode the optional equipment and paint codes, and to confirm that the first three digits of the VIN indicated it was a Standard Microbus, RH Cargo Doors, LH Drive, so a big thanks to Dave Easterwood and the rest of NEATO. But there is no build sequence or year of manufacture data.

A few people have pointed me in the direction of the vehicle differences on Skips server: http://killer-whale.automatrix.com:80/~skip/volkswagen/early-diffs.html, and that is where I first looked. But the vehicle (clearly a 64-67) ID 22-1308189 does not "compute" with any of the initial three digit codes cited on that page : 1964 1-222-500 1965 215-nnn-nnn 1966 216-nnn-nnn 1967 217-nnn-nnn

There is a clue, however, in that a difference cited for 1965s (and later): > 5) Chassis number changed to reflect model type (bus, pickup, etc.) If this is true, the first three digits for 65-67 would not be all the same for each year, but would vary to reflect the specific model, as per the NEATO model numbers at: http://www.mindspring.com/~deasterw/model.html

I found in the archives that Jim Bryant also pointed this out last November. This starts making sense. If true, 22-1208189 would be correct number for a '65 or later Standard, RH Doors, LH Drive, and you would think the last six digits are sequential build numbers.

Anyway, your eyes are all glazing over and I still don't know the year of the subject bus. I think its not a '64 because it has the later VIN format, and not a '67 because it has the square key lock on the gas filler. So '65 or '66. Maybe the family will find the paperwork, and solve the mystery, or next time I visit, I'll check the engine number and the rear deck lid lift.

(Hmmm. Lots of buses have the undeciphered M-code of 425, and Dave Easterwood thinks it might be walk-thru seat belts. Since this bus is not a walk through and has a 426 code, it kinda makes sense. However, it also has 025, lap belt anchors, which may just refer to the rear seats)

Tom F. 90 Syncro Westie


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