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Date:         Mon, 06 May 1996 22:37:02 -0700
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From:         jwakefield@4dmg.net (john wakefield)
Subject:      Re: LHS Shower in Westie?

Tim Smith noted "As far as really heating the water there is a osting/pix of the water tank with a neat heating coil loop using engine coolant to warm the tank water. Splice it off your rear heater with valves to direct heat flow." I wonder if anybody has an old Westie parts donar on which the water tank could be tested to determine if it can really accept full coolant heat levels without loss of integrity. That would be instructive for persons interested in using it as a "thermo flywheel" to provide delayed interior heating by hydronic radiation. Would this be a timely investigation for the north-bound caravan?

True enough you can heat-up and quickly use-up your Westie's rather limited water supply this way. This shower approach satisfies a very different set of trade-offs. For non-remote and non-extended stays, it would be easier, cheaper, and less intrusive into the original Westie design. With a concealed auxillary threaded spigot and the public or private shower design of your choice, you're ready to speadily drain your warmed water reserve. I'm not opposed to this if contemplated travel is only along Interstate highways and similar areas where one can always refill. I might even try it. My LHS approach costs more in time, money, effort, and your tolerance for vehicle intrusion. But with it, a couple with two kids could visit dry remote sites for three day week-ends without anyone feeling constrained by how long or often they shower. I feel they're both reasonable approaches with different trade-offs. Except for picking up a used "cold plate," it's hard for me to conceive how you could spend over $300 building a brand new LHS as I described using 100% new materials from discount suppliers like Home Depot and Walmart. A creative person could do it for much less. In view of that, I don't see any relevance for owners of 5 to 16 year old Vanagon Westies of comparison with the new VW/Winnie which has a shower. Its $1800 sales tax alone is easily six times the cost of creating a new LHS.

John Wakefield


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