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Date:         Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:41:19 -0500
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From:         Derek Drew <drew@interport.net>
Subject:      Re: Good AND inexpensive tire pump, where to find?

Very good post and I think I have some answers.

At 09:05 PM 11/22/96 -0600, you wrote: >Derek mentions that lowering tire pressure for better traction. >This is indeed standard procedure for the 4 and 6 wheel drive >Scania TGB 30 and 40 heavy trucks I used to drive. It makes >a great difference!

The reason I pound on people to lower their tire pressures when stuck is that even *I* have trouble remembering to do it, and I am the king of stuck. I get stuck and start thinking about every possible thing except lowering the tire pressure. But lowering the tire pressure always gets me out.

I am going to put a sign on my 4,000lb winch that I keep under my back seat saying, "Have You Tried Your Tire Pressure First?"

>In my own Westy, lowering the pressure is no problem ;-), but >pumping it up again (in the "field", far from a service station) is!. >I've tried:

I just ordered some little jobbies that make it even easier to lower the pressure. You dial these things onto your valve stems, dial in a pressure between 10 and 20 psi, and then drive off. As you drive, the tires deflate to the preset value automatically, and then stop.

>Hand pump: Forget this. My arms are worn out before adding 10psi >into ONE tire.

Right. Forget this option.

>12V Walmart (or insert generic department store name here) pump: >Does pump the tire, but: > > Taking my four "small" LT195-75-R14 from 20 to 45 psi takes > 40 minutes!!! (including "cool down" intervals for the pump > to keep it from smooking.) > > After 1 year of use (only maybe 10 or so of these cycles, > plus occational topping off) the pump performance seems to > have degraded significantly. > >The pump I'm talking about is the "250" psi 12v one. It comes in >a dozen different outsides (with and without: pressure gauge, extra >12 V outlet, various color lights etc), but with the same pump inside. >Prices range from $9.95 to 39.95. Surprisingly I havent found any alternative >to this pump. Any 12v "candidate" I've examined, regardless of brand name >contains the same pump inside the varuious shape housings. > >Two alternatives that comes to mind: 1/ Buy an inverter and a 110V >pump: Price >$100, way more than my student budget can devote to >this.

Right. This is the sensible route I am taking. I have a 1500/3000 watt inverter I bought from CUC/Shoppers advantage ($350; lifetime warranty) and I think I'm gonna try that 110Volt Campbell Hausefeld pump in Harbor Freight (about $100), which puts out something like 4.2CFM at 40 psi, very respectable.

>2/ Buy a foot pump: Real cheap ($5-10) but do they work? Do they last? >And how long would it take me to pump the tires from 20-45 PSI? >I hate to buy potential junk that break on me when I really need it.

Bad idea.

>3/ Pressure tank (3 or so gal): Too bulky to motivate its place during >extended trips, and how many tires does it fill on one "charge"? Less >than four is my guess.

Capacity for four tires requires too big a tank. CFM is the thing you are looking for.

>Any other suggestions?

Yes, actually, for the VAST bulk of you, the answer is to buy 2 or even 4 of the $19 12 volt jobbies at K-Mart or similar and hook them up *at the same time.* It takes about 7 mins for my Ames Dept. Store $19 special to bring one tire up from 15 psi to 40, so I bought a little pile of these. With four, you can bring all four tires up in 7 mins. This is the answer folks, goofy as it sounds.

If you want to skimp, then just buy 2 of these. The second one adds insurance against the first one breaking, as one of our folks pointed out the possibility of this happening.

I am impressed with the Ames units I bought moreso than the Whitless units I bought. Anyway, the thing is to shoot for compactness.

>/Martin and '82 diesel Westy. (2WD but never stuck so far! Had a close call >in a river bed once. Now wiser) > > > > > ___________________________________ Derek Drew New York, NY drew@interport.net (main address for e-mail) derekdrew@aol.com (alternate/backup, checked infrequently)


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