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Date:         Sat, 11 Jan 97 14:13:57 EST
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@vanagon.com>
From:         jag@cs.rochester.edu
Subject:      Optimal bus to bring to Germany, perhaps more realistic alternatives.

Ok, perhaps not everyone shares my enthusiasm for a TDI engine conversion project. Here are some other alternatives:

In reverse price order:

1/New '97 EV-Winnie US$38k

2/Used '95 EV-Winnie around US$25k-27k

3/Used '93 EV MV around US$15k ??

4/Used '90 or '91 Vanagon Westy around US$10k

5/Used earlier (83.5-89) watercooled Vanagon Westy US$4-7k

6/Used earlier (80-83) aircooled Vanagon Westy US$2-4k

Notes: 3/ is not a full camper. The winnie conversion (1/ and 2/) is not availible in Europe, so parts service on the camper equipment may be difficult to obtain. 2/ and 3/ may be difficult to find locally, since few were sold in the US. While new and newer used vehicles are more expensive in Europe than USA, the price gap narrows for older ones, so for 5/ and 6/ purchase price may be less of a reason to bring a US vehicle to Europe. (You can instead sell your free US -> Germany vehichle allowance to me... ;-)

Also, do you need to register your vehicle with the German TUV, or will they ley you drive a US registered vehicle? (As a tourist you are allowed (by some old international treaty) to drive a foreign registered vehicle, but if you live and work in a country you are most likely required to register it locally, unless the military has managed to get some special treatment by the Germans due to the time limited nature of a military assignment.

If you need to register it in Germany, read Marcus' points below on importing a camper to Germany.

Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 16:48:56 -0700 (PDT) >From: mgdoherr@ucdavis.edu (Marcus Doherr) To: vanagon@lenti (Multiple Recipients of List) Subject: Re: Importing US vanagon to Europe. Message-ID: <199606282348.QAA27418@franc.ucdavis.edu>

For importing cars to Germany:

1. to avoid import taxes you have to have been in the US for at least one year, and owned the vehicle for at least 6 months.

2. the car has to pass technical inspection (TUV) and smog inspection.

3. the car has to be modified to german standards - mainly front and rear lights and instrumentation (km/h)

4. if that exact car/engine combination is not available (therefore unknown) to the german TUV, then engine output, max. vehicle speed and noise level (inside and outside, idle and certain speed) have to be determined since they will be stated in the german title

5. if (in this case) it is a camper with propane tank, the whole propane system has to be visually checked whether it meets german standards and pressure-checked whether it is safe

6. US-campers are equipped for 110V/60Hz external power (and the US connectors), this would have to be changed to german system (220V/50Hz) and connectors

/Martin -- Martin Jagersand email: jag@cs.rochester.edu Computer Science Department jag@cs.chalmers.se University of Rochester Fax: (716) 461-2018 Rochester, NY 14627-0226 WWW: http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/jag/


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