Date:         28 Jan 97 13:03:42 PST
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@vanagon.com>
From:         CARVER_JEFFREY@aphub.aerojetpd.com (Jeff Carver)
Subject:      Re: still confused

My 13 years of Vanagon Westi ownership has been good.  But now that I 
have 3 kids, it's tough to go camping with all of them (seatbelted 
that is).  With this change I have been lurking on this 
discussion on the desireability of seating and camping.  My re-design 
ideas of the Westi interior may be of interest, but usually not.

A minimum for camping for us would be, pop-top, full width rear 
seat/bed, sink and stove.  Fridge is optional and can easily be 
replaced with a ice chest.  Don't need the storage cabinets on the 
side.  Use duffle bags, suitcases, packs etc.  That sink/stove combo 
is just too nice to give up, but it's too long to allow full width rear seat.

I would like to start with a 90/91 MultiVan layout.  Rear facing 
seats behind front, fold up table, LR cabiner, pop-top.
All I need is a place to put the sink/stove unit (could be self contained 
and removeable with propane and water tanks included?) Behind the 
passenger? and can be replaced with seat for 7th person? for 
non-camping.  Still need seats for 5 in the camping section, but 
still be nice to have 7 for non-camping.

I like having the rear left cabinet for tools and spares (it IS a VW 
remember).

Now if Vanagons had the dual opening doors from a Split, the 
sink/stove could be attached to the doors.  Where's that cutting 
torch?!

Any other bizarramundo ideas out there?

- Jeff
'80 Westi, and another one that may get transmogrified into the 
above.

> > What (if any) Eurovan and/or Vanagon comes with:
> >  
> >  pop top
> >  fold down bed
> >  preferably front wheel drive
> >  2 rear facing seat --OR-- middle bench seat (Either way seats 7)
> >  full fridge
> >  stove and or sink
> >  tables for kids to color on/play board games etc.
> >  cup holders
> >  cabinets
> 
> Sounds like you're looking for a motor home.  
> Vanagons ('80-'91) and Eurovans('93+) typically come in either passenger
> versions that seat 7 or Camper versions that seat 4-6.
> No Vanagon or Eurovan was made that BOTH seats 7 AND has the
> fridge/stove/sink/cabinets.
> 
> You'll need to choose either the full camping gear or the seating for 7.
> 
> In 1990 & 1991 they offered the MultiVan model that was similar, offering the
> pop-top,  fold down rear seat/bed, a fold up table and seating for 7, but no
> refrigerator.
> Neither of these models offers the stove/sink but do have a single rear
> cabinet.
> 
> Some basic Wolfsberg Edition Vanagon campers included:
> 
> 	- Seating for 6
> 	- Cabinets
> 	- Fold down table
> 	- Removable cooler (120AC/12DC)
> 	- Cup holders
> 
> But no stove.
>