Date:         Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:50:16 -0500 (EST)
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@vanagon.com>
From:         KENYON FAIREY <kfairey@oit.umass.edu>
Subject:      Re: still confused

Short addendum here:

Both the Eurovans I recently test drove, '95 and '97, could seat 6 (7 in a
squeeze) with the center bench seat. This seat does block access to the 
cabinets and refrig though. Not too good a design in my mind. You'd have to
take a cover or tent to store the seat (comes out easily) in while you were
in campsite. Has 2 tables, but they may be a safety hazard if in use during
driving. Both bench seats will hold 2 adults comfortably, I really can't 
remember if they have 3 seat belts.

Some Westies, full campers, did come with, or you could get, 1 rear facing seat
for behind the passenger. You lost the swivel capability of the passenger to
only 45 degrees. then you could possibly seat 5-6. Again I cannot remenber if
there were 3 seatbelts on the rear bench, but only 2 adults fit comfortably.
The swing out table is a bit more stable in travel, although you should remem-
ber that any hard object can be a safety hazzard in an accident.

Both of these are 'full camper' configurations.


Kenyon

> 
> In a message dated 97-01-28 04:03:23 EST, hunkins@mbay.net (Thad Hunkins)
> writes:
> 
> > What (if any) Eurovan and/or Vanagon comes with:
> >  
> >  pop top
> >  fold down bed
> >  preferably front wheel drive
> >  2 rear facing seat --OR-- middle bench seat (Either way seats 7)
> >  full fridge
> >  stove and or sink
> >  tables for kids to color on/play board games etc.
> >  cup holders
> >  cabinets
> 
> Sounds like you're looking for a motor home.  
> Vanagons ('80-'91) and Eurovans('93+) typically come in either passenger
> versions that seat 7 or Camper versions that seat 4-6.
> No Vanagon or Eurovan was made that BOTH seats 7 AND has the
> fridge/stove/sink/cabinets.
> 
> You'll need to choose either the full camping gear or the seating for 7.
> 
> Complete Camper models were offered every model year from VW, the later
> models being named the Vanagon Camper GL.  These include all the camping
> stuff, but only seating for 4.  It is possible to add a center 2 passenger
> seat (from a passenger Vanagon) to one of these to bring the seating capacity
> to 6, but it blocks access to the refer/stove/sink.  Whith this arrangement
> you could set the van up for camping/seating for 4 OR seating for 6.
> 
> In 1986 & 1987 VW made a basic version of the Camper model that has a
> pop-top, refrigerator, fold down rear seat/bed, a fold up table and seating
> for 6 (six).
> 
> In 1990 & 1991 they offered the MultiVan model that was similar, offering the
> pop-top,  fold down rear seat/bed, a fold up table and seating for 7, but no
> refrigerator.
> Neither of these models offers the stove/sink but do have a single rear
> cabinet.
> 
> I believe that in 1993 VW offered the Eurovan MV which was similar to the
> Vanagon MultiVan in layout, but of course with the Eurovan's front mounted 5
> cylinder engine driving the front wheels.  Vanagons have rear mounted 4
> cylinder engines typically driving the rear wheels.  Vanagons were also
> offered in later years with Syncro all-wheel drive.
> 
> Good luck,
> Jim Davis
> 87 GL Syncro
> 88 GL Wolfsburg
> 


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