Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 20:20:19 -0400 (EDT)
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From: MONDSHINE@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: Fw: THE ULTIMATE WAY TO HEAT YOUR BUS
Any of you air cooled chaps out there would do very well to heed the words of
Mr.Ark Mirvis (Automotive Heating Technologies). This man is sharp and
quick. I consider him to be the formost authority on gas heaters. I have
dealt with him a couple of times over the past few years, and found him to be
fair, honest and astute.
Just don't get him going "Tigers vs T-34's"
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>From: tony@moorelab.com (Tony Moore)
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Date: 97-05-12 13:25:31 EDT
Did anyone else see this post to the air cooled for sale list?
tony
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> From: ARKADY MIRVIS <heaterman@nac.net>
> To: aircldvw@CC.OWU.EDU
> Subject: THE ULTIMATE WAY TO HEAT YOUR BUS
> Date: Sunday, May 11, 1997 12:05 PM
>
> Hello, fellows,
>
> Here is my first message to you and, when I speak, please, listen.
>
> Many of you know too well what freezing in your bus feels like. When I
offered and not
> once to my shivering customers hot tea or coffee, it was seen by them as
the best
> care and experience! Do good people have to be miserable?
>
> Remember "necessity is mother of invention"? When, more than thirty years
ago, I
> couldn't take freezing at - 40F anymore, a series of experiments began.
>
> Do you think there is a very big difference between -15 and -40F when it
comes to
> driving? Not really! Simply put: driving without heat is dangerous,
particularly on
> long and deserted roads.
>
> Simple thinking and not much knowledge was needed to investigate sources
of energy for
> heating and these were found inpractical:
>
> LIQUID GAS OR PROPANE. Why? Gas has low energy content, evaporation stops
at low
> temperature, special tank or bottle carrier needed, pressure regulators
do not
> do the job and freeze, piping has to be very well done, etc.
>
> ELECTRIC POWER. Where is it? To warm the bus (no holes, no air leaks, no
draft!) you
> need minimum 18 - 20000 BTU/HR. This translates to approx. 5.3 - 5.8
KW/HR. We all
> have on board 12 volts source. For this source to develop 5.3 - 5.8
kilowatts it must
> output 441 - 483 amperes! Have you seen welders trucks, their generators
and cables,
> did you? Would you want to have all this just to have sufficient electric
heating on
> board?
> You can see ads (even in national publications), luring you into buying
an electric
> heater for the bus. This is nonsense!
>
> Till portable nuclear source will be developed, electricity for heating
is out.
>
> ENGINE EXHAUST AND OIL. Even Volkswagen realized that these were poor
sources of heat,
> and it started to offer auxiliary gasoline burning heaters of minimum
capacity.
> I have seen many attempts to get or improve heating without result.
Additional
> blowers, heatexchangers - what we try? To get heat from where it is not
in the first
> place!
>
> A sure way to finish your engine is to suck heat from oil. Oil to flow
and lubricate,
> MUST to be warm. Cold oil sludges the engine when blow-by is high and
detergents do
> not work well.
>
> WOOD AND COAL. Believe me I have seen good workmanship in implementing
this idea.
> NICE! Fireplace in the bus! And a chimney with a ruster on it. Sure way
to arouse ann
> attention of the highway patrol and onlookers. And you have ashes on
board to spread
> under wheel if you stuck! How about pulling a trailer with wood or coal,
like steam
> engines were doing?
>
> ALCOHOL. This is taken inside for warming up. But drinking and driving do
not mix!
> Don't even try! There is statistic that 10,000 Russians die every year
freezing after
> vodka intake.
>
> WARM CLOTHES. Good idea! But how much of it can you put on? Till you will
not be able
> to move. Even with warm socks you need to do SCHUHEPLATTER (german dance)
to keep your
> toes alive.
>
> POLAR SLEEPING BAG, ADOPTED FOR DRIVING. Great! Anyone knows where they
are sold?
>
> So, where to go for real heat? It is not far away - right in your gas
tank! That is
> THE ULTIMATE SOURCE OF ENERGY for THE ULTIMATE WAY TO BEAT THE COLD -
COMBUSTION
> HEATERS!
>
> Small,powerfull, efficient, nature friendly (very low emission level
because of
> abundance of air and low combustion temperatures), quiet, reliable and
SAFE.
> Yes, safer than your house oil burner!
>
> Safe only after service by a specialist. Why so many stories about
"heater inherent
> dangerous nature" ? That a whole separate article can and was written by
me.
>
> Believe me, the heater is dangerous because little knowledge is
dangerous.
> When I service or sell a heater a set of of instructions goes with it.
When these
> instructions are followed, you are safe, totally.
>
> Heater is dangerous when bought uncomplete and not adjusted. This is how
most of
> heaters are sold at shows and by friends. Do yourself and your loved ones
a favor, ask
> and do not rush to follow advices of the seller.
>
> Years of heater service, restorations resulted in many modification
technics, trade
> secrets and approaches to make heater to start and to run better than
when it left the
> assembly line.
>
> Do not waste time! Electric car engineers selected combustion heaters.
>
> How about watercooled cars, buses? Particularly those with diesels?
Preheat the engine
> and the interior! We have these engineering wanders! Miniature heat
gigants, weighing
> barely 10 pounds, you can find space to put under the hood in any car.
Completely
> autonomous.
>
> What else do you want to know? Get in touch.
> Enjoy warm driving!
>
> Ark Mirvis "THE HEATERMAN"
>
> (201)398-6363
>
> heaterman@nac.net
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