Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:56:42 -0400
Reply-To: "Rodney L. Boleyn" <boleyn@SCR.SIEMENS.COM>
Sender: Vanagon mailing list <Vanagon@Gerry.SDSC.EDU>
From: "Rodney L. Boleyn" <boleyn@SCR.SIEMENS.COM>
Subject: Re: missing messages in digest mode (long)
On Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:45:20 -0500, MR STEVEN P KAMMERER <DCKM39C@PRODIGY.COM> wrote:
>
>Today I looked at mesage part of digest. It said that this digest
>contains 43 messages. There were only 28 messages listed numerically in
>the top part. Attachment is the same. Where is the mail going. I
>enjoy this list too much to only receive 70%.
>Has anyone else noticed this or having same problem?
Steve and the list,
I've noticed the same thing, but I contend no messages are missing.
In your message, you were referring to "Vanagon Digest - 14 Oct 1997
to 15 Oct 1997" edition. Now, as boring as it was, I actually counted
the number of messages in that Digest by hand, and I got 43, just as
promised by the first line:
>There are 43 messages totalling 1547 lines in this issue.
>
> Topics of the day:
>
> 1. Speedo cable noise
> 2. Paging Michael Jarvis
> 3. Parts
> 4. Stainless Exhaust (2)
> 5. Westy for sale in Ottawa
> 6. Looking for So. Az. listee near Wilcox/Chiracahua, NF
> 7. Troubleshooting Question (3)
> 8. propex heaters (again)
> 9. re Eurovan brake vibration (2)
> 10. 02 mixture questions (2)
> 11. Archieves location (2)
> 12. vw/trek bikes fs (no vanagon content)
> 13. Vanagon got smacked :-( (8)
> 14. Warm Idle Racing
> 15. I still have Air Flow Meters! And MORE!
> 16. bumper questions/specifics
> 17. Parts Place (2)
> 18. How do the heat controls work on an 85 GL? (2)
> 19. Wetwesties / CCC / CCA Trip (?)
> 20. more about a little green golf
> 21. Where to go
> 22. '89 Westie FS. & Tombston
> 23. Intermittent loss of power famous stalling problem again
> 24. A few questions
> 25. KEP Subaru in a Vanagon photos
> 26. Alloys for sale
> 27. Where is fan fuse?
> 28. camping on 10/18
Here's the confusion: The list of *TOPICS* only shows the UNIQUE
subject lines. If any subject had several responses, it only gets put
in the topic list once, and the NUMBER of messages with that subject
line is put in parentheses at the end of the line. For instance, for
topic 13, "Vanagon got smacked :-(", there were 8 messages in this
digest with this subject line.
If you add these up, it works out fine:
Topic # Message Count
------- -------------
1. 1
2. 1
3. 1
4. 2
5. 1
6. 1
7. 3
8. 1
9. 2
10. 2
11. 2
12. 1
13. 8
14. 1
15. 1
16. 1
17. 2
18. 2
19. 1
20. 1
21. 1
22. 1
23. 1
24. 1
25. 1
26. 1
27. 1
28. 1
--- ---
Total Topics: 28 Total Messages: 43
I, personally, have never noticed these counts to be in error.
Someone else (Kit Carter) mentioned on 17 Oct 1997 that Digests with
MORE messages than listed at the top have also been noticed. I can't
account for that myself (never seen it), but here's one possibility:
Some people's email programs automatically duplicate the replied-to
message onto the end of their messages. These duplicates sometime
look just like regular messages--i.e., the headers that the email
program chooses to include with the duplicate are the same or nearly
the same as the headers the Vanagon "digester" includes when munching
messages into a Digest. Sometimes the only clue you get that the
message is a duplicate inside someone else's reply is that the
seperator line looks like this:
- ------------------------------
instead of this:
------------------------------
Maybe that's what you're seeing when you see MORE messages than
what's reported at the top?
Just my $0.005,
Rodney
