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Date:         Thu, 9 Oct 1997 15:57:58 -0400
Reply-To:     JordanVw@AOL.COM
Sender:       Vanagon mailing list <Vanagon@Gerry.SDSC.EDU>
From:         Chris Turner <JordanVw@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: alloy wheels
Comments: To: hrps@pi.net

In a message dated 97-10-09 07:42:54 EDT, hrps@PI.NET (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J.W.Bri=EBr?=) writes:

<< > I used Audi 5000 lug bolts on the front at $3.50 each. They are a little > shorter 27mm instead of 31 or 32 mm for the $9.00 VW chrome bolts. Works > fine; it has plenty of thread to be safe and secure.

That's good advice. I take it that these have tapered heads in stead of the normal rounded heads (that is the back of the head where it 'centers' in the wheel).

> You do not not need > to replace the rear studs, not even sure if you have to replace the lug > nuts, but I had the VW chrome ones for the back already.

I got contradictory info on this. Some say you have to get longer lugs. The nuts do have to be replaced though as the standards do not fit properly because of the above mentioned tapered versus rounded backside of the nuts. >>

first of all junked Audi 5000's are so plentiful here in the US (thanks CBS 60 minutes!!) (well, every yard near me has at least a couple..) that you can usually walk into any junkyard and pocket 10 with the usual 5 finger discount.. ;<) the Audi TURBO lug bolts and the NON-TURBO lug bolts are the same, both w/ a 17mm head, but same thread pitch and dia. as a Vanagon.

Audi lug bolts will work as a replacement for the front Vanagon Carat alloy lug bolts, with the Carat Alloys, and will work when mounting Audi TURBO wheels on the front of a Vanagon.

Now on the rears, when mounting Audi TURBO wheels you must use elongated studs..sure you can put them on, but with the stock studs, the lug nuts do not grab onto enough of the stud to be safe.. ( know someone who did not put elongated studs on the rears with his turbo wheels, and he just cranks down the lug nuts every 3000 miles or so....doable, but.....ya know...PITA)..

Now, when mounting the Carat alloys on the vanagon, you dont need to replace the rear studs w/ elongated ones. you need the VW Carat alloy rear lug nuts. If there was a way you could mount the vanagon Carat alloys on the rear of the vanagon with just using the stock steel wheel lug nut, then why do you think they made the special nuts just for the alloy wheels??

so, if you have a set of carat alloys without lugs, then you may be able to save yourself a few bucks by using Audi lug bolts up front, but you will still have to get the VW alloy lug nuts for the rear.

chris


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