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Date:         Sat, 20 Dec 1997 11:11:07 -0600
Reply-To:     "Mark B. Magee" <condor2@FLASH.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.sdsc.edu>
From:         "Mark B. Magee" <condor2@FLASH.NET>
Organization: Condor Efficiency
Subject:      Phosphate-Free Coolant: War and Peace
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Volks, It seems the Phosphate-Free coolant issue resurfaces every 6 mos or so on the List. In summary, my research has shown: 1) Electrolysis is the issue, it must be stopped or pitting will occur throughout the coolant loop, primarily on the "hotspots", heads, jugs etc. 2) Distilled water is truly important, as city water contains minerals that will conduct "electricity" and enhance electrolysis. Distilled water will -not- conduct electricity, it is the minerals etc. in water that carry electricity. But even with distilled water, the coolant loop will have copper/aluminum/iron particles sintered off into the coolant over time, thus enabling the electrolysis process to begin. 3) In the past, with all iron engines, phosphate was the additive of choice to inhibit electrolysis. But the old iron engines (iron-block/iron-head/copper radiator) did not produce but a fraction of the electrolysis produced by modern iron-block/alum heads/copper radiators. It is the different metals that truly "charge" the coolant to produce a small electric charge that will "supercharge" corrosion and pitting. 4) Phosphates in coolant will exhaust themselves over time and become "used up", up until the point at which they are expended in their ability to inhibit electrolysis, the phosphates will do a fine job at resisting electrolysis/corrosion. After that point, the coolant will become a hotbed of electrolysis. 5) In the old engines with more similar metals the phosphates remained intact for years, today, maybe a year max. Conclusion: You can run phosphated coolant in your wasserboxer, just make sure you change every 12 months or less. The new non-phosphated coolants use different inhibitors that last longer in the more harsh environment of the multi-metal engines of today, or so the mfgrs claim. I use non-phosphated Prestone Long Life, distilled water, Red Line Water Wetter and change all annually. I also occasionally check pH balance of my coolant using pH test strips, the pH should always be 7 or higher in on the pH scale (the basic range). However I have found that this method is somehwhat unreliable (pH will be 11 or so in the bottle and immediately falls to 7.5 or 8 in the vehicle).

Regards/Merry Christmas Mark B. Magee 87GL 82 Diesel Westy Kemah TX John 14:6

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