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Date:         Mon, 23 Feb 1998 19:24:07 -0500
Reply-To:     Martin Jagersand <jag@CS.ROCHESTER.EDU>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <Vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Martin Jagersand <jag@CS.ROCHESTER.EDU>
Subject:      Parts Sources for the TDI Conversion
Comments: To: vanagon@likeminds.com

To complete the swap Martin assembled parts from three different sources: A TDI donor car, a diesel T3 bus (Vanagon), and from the aftermarket.

From a T3 Diesel

If you already have a diesel you're in luck. Otherwise the following parts are needed:

The diesel motor mounts. Oil pan. Oil pump, or at least the pickup tube. (Which in the diesel is integral with the bottom of the oil pump housing) Diesel bellhousing. Suitable T3 transmission. (Helmut has a list of all the ratios available) The mounting bolts for the bellhousing and transmission. Coolant hoses and fittings. (jag: Are the expansion and overflow tank the same in gas and diesels?) A Turbo Diesel exhaust if availible (which it isn't in north america) Using the 1.5" naturally aspirated Diesel exhaust would be ridiculous. In the USA we would have to fabricate our own. This is what Bob Bellanca did. Flywheel "anfasser" I don't know what this is.

One has to decide whether to keep the accesories on the TDI engine. The advantage is that the alternator is likely a 120A unit. The 1.6 diesels had 65A alternators. The disadvantage is that the new alternator can/could interfere with the oil filler and dip stick tube. (jag: I think there were three variations on dip stick arrangement).

From the TDI donor

It's good to familiarize oneself with the installation in the donor before taking out the engine.

Engine. Engine wiring harnesses. Engine computer. Accelerator potentiometer. Intercooler Air mass meter and possibly air filter box. Catalytic converter. Alternator, if desired.

From aftermarket sources

A special left motor mount to avoid interference with the turbo. The original TD in the T3 had the turbo low, but sufficiently offset forward to avoid interference with the mount. The turbo in the transverse mount TDI engines is located centrally. If desired, an aftermarket oil cooler. If desired, aftermarket air-water intercooler. (Oettinger makes one) Using the standard TDI air-air intercooler one has to somehow arrange for cooling airflow. A BIG blower and a snorkel from the unused passenger side air intake might be the best solution.

Results

Now lets look at some theoretical figures from the IDI diesel, and try to extrapolate to the TDI: The full load injection in the 1.6l TD is 0.0365 cc.

So fuel consumption at full load and 4500rpm is:

0.0365 (cc) * 4500 (rpm) * 2 (inj/revolution) * 60 (min/h) / 1000 (cc/l) = 19.71 l/h

In gallons:

= 5.34 gal/h

The same figures for the nat aspirated engine under full load: 14.5l/h or 3.9 gal/h

With the standard gearing of the diesel (5.5 final drive ratio) For a VW Westy diesel in perfect tune total drag matches availible engine power at about 70-75mph. Given the above figures the calculated milage at full speed is about 20mpg. At a cruising speed of 60 mph the engine power needed to overcome the total drag is 30hp or 21kW. Roughly half of this is wind drag. Most of the rest is tire friction. This figure assumes one is using the relatively light rolling standard Continental tires. Engine speed at 60 mph cruise is 3600rpm. Repeiting the above calculation assuming the same efficiency as for full load we get:

At 60 mph: 26 mpg

In reality the engine is somewhat more efficient at 3600 rpm than 4500 we could get an even slighly higher mpg. But also in reality few people drive at an absolutely constant 60mph in an absolutely flat place and with absolutely no wind.

What is the best milage we could possibly get with the VW IDI diesel? The best efficiency of the engine is achieved when running at 1800rpm with a fuel consumption of 264g/kwh. 1800rpm corresponds to about 30mph in fourth gear with the standard transmission. At that speed 7.14kW is required to overcome drag. Calculating best milage at that rpm gives a remarkable 60 mpg!

Now these three milages, 20mpg @70-75mph, 26mpg @60mph and 60mpg @30mph, illustrate a typical pattern with diesel engines: The economy improves dramatically when one drives slow. In Otto (gas) engined vehicles this difference in economy is not nearly as dramatic. The resason is that while identical vehicles will have roughly the same increas in drag when speed increases, the efficiency of the diesel engine typically goes down somewhat or is constant when rpm and load increases, while the gas Otto engine starts out grossly inefficient, but the efficiency improves with increased load.

So what about the TDI? Lower heat loss in the cylinder head and improvements in the injection system and control gives the base 66kW 1.9l TDI a specific fuel consumption of 207 g/kWh at 1800rpm. This is about a 20% improvement over the IDI. Comparisons in vehicles where both TDI and IDI engine alternatives are offered also point to about 20% improvement in miles per gallon. With a leap in confidence we can predict that given suitable gearing target milage for a 1.9l TDI powered T3 Vanagon would be about 32.5mpg. Of course changing driving habits from having more power availible with the TDI is bound to affect this figure.

What was Martin's result? The milage he got from the first tankful was 7,6 Liter/100km, or 31mpg.

/Martin -- Martin Jagersand email: jag@cs.rochester.edu Computer Science Department jag@cs.chalmers.se University of Rochester

Slow down and visit the VW diesel Westy page: WWW: http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/jag/vw -------------------------------------------------------------------


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