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Date:         Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:06:25 -0500
Reply-To:     Lawrence Johnson <ljohnson@HALHINET.ON.CA>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <Vanagon@vanagon.com>
From:         Lawrence Johnson <ljohnson@HALHINET.ON.CA>
Subject:      Re: Syncro Alignment & Vibrations
Comments: To: Malcolm Stebbins <mstebbins@HOTMAIL.COM>,
          Multiple recipients of list <vanagon@vanagon.com>
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The material in this document is copywrite 1994 by Derek Drew, 487 Columbus

Ave. #3R, New York, NY 10024 (212)-580-4459. It may be reproduced and redistributed for any non-commercial purpose provided proper credit is given to the author. Contact the author for permission to reproduce in a commercial work.

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Before giving you the specs, a disussion of how to lift the van is in order. Since I regularly drive my Vanagon Syncro Camper on rough terrible roads and bash the underside, I have undertaken to lift it a bit. I lifted it about 1" by buying BF Goodrich Radial All-Terrain tires, in light truck size 27 x 8.50 for the 14" alloy rims. (I love these bigger tires, and they provide excellent handling because the sidewalls are relatively stiff, but they kill the performance of the motor due to their effect on the gearing. You will feel like you are in a 1970s era bus again, but I feel the tradeoff is well worth it for my application).

Another method I used to raise the van is to raise the rear end. I did this as follows: in between the rear springs and the body of the vehicle there is a

small doughnut sized wedge of about 3/4 inch thickness. I went to the dealer and bought a pile of these little wedges and put 2 or 3 more on each side of the rear of the vehicle. I am still puzzling over how to lift the front of the vehicle so right now it tilts down at the front a bit. Any ideas on how to easily lift the front of a Syncro Vanagon, guys?

------------BELOW IS WHAT YOU GIVE THE ALIGNMENT MECHANIC----------------

VANAGON SYNCRO --'86-'91 ALIGNMENT SPECS FOR CAMPER MODEL WITH DUAL BATTERIES UP FRONT

[Proper specifications for camper are NOT INCLUDED on Hunter machines. Use the following.]

ORDER OF WORK Alignments MUST be performed in the following order to avoid one adjustment from changing other adjustments:

1st Castor 2nd Camber 3rd Toe

SPECIFICATIONS -- 30-40% laden

Left Front Right Front -------------------- ----------------------- Min Max. Min. Max. -------------------- ----------------------- -0.27 +0.40 Camber -0.27 +0.40

+3.8 +4.4 Caster +3.8 +4.4

-0.033 +0.033 Toe -0.033 +0.033 (-0.017") (+0.017") Toe (inches) (-0.017") (+0.017")

Front ----------------- Min. Max. ----------------- Cross Camber 0 0.3 Cross Caster 0 0.5 Total Toe -0.07 +0.07 Toe in inches: (-0.033") (+0.033") Setback 0 0.5

Left Rear Right Rear -------------------- ----------------------- Min. Max. Min. Max. -------------------- ----------------------- -0.67 0.00 Camber -0.67 0.00

-0.08 +0.26 Toe (each) -0.08" +0.26 (-0.04") +(0.13") (in inches) (-0.04") +(0.13") ----------------------------------------------------------- Rear ----------------- Min. Max. ----------------- FINAL Cross Camber 0 0.3 This page Total Toe -0.16 +0.52 based on total toe in inches: (-0.08") +(0.26") measurement Thrust angle -0.10 +0.10 page 44.3a

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Notes on calculations (for your own use/reference)

1. Calculating front camber spec:

Notes: The front camber spec for the regular Vanagon peaks in the middle and then comes back down. However, for the Syncro the spec seems to drop directly. My figure should probably be centered around zero. Thus:

+5' +- 20' is a good compromise Range in degrees is 0.7*.

This translates into:

+0.0825* +/-0.334

This translates into:

+0.4165 -0.2515

2. Calculating the front castor spec:

Set arbitrarily at halfway between published spec and halfway point.

3. Calculating the rear camber spec:

Empty Full +0.25 Max -0.50 -0.25 Nominal -1.17* -0.42 Min. -1.84

Has a 0.67* spread.

So, set this at -0.00 max. -0.67 min.

4. Calculating the rear toe spec:

Empty Full +0.125" -0.041"

WEIGHT INFORMATION:

Premise: The empty non-camper syncro weighs in at between 3,641 and 4,000 lbs. depending on the model. The max weight is 5512. The halfway point is therefore between 4577 and 4894 lbs.

My vehicle weighs in at about the halfway point, since I weigh 4680 empty. Being conservative, I will produce a set of alignment specs for a vehicle 33% laden.

RANDOM WEIGHT STATISTICS:

TOTAL Front Axel Rear Axel

Syncro Camper

GVWR 5512 2866 3042 Empty 3950 Actual 4620? 2310? 2310? Pub. curb R&T 4000 1972 2028 Pub. curb C&D 4000 Extrapo camper 4350

Non-Syncro Camper

Empty 3960 Full 5280 Cargo weight 1320

Non-Camper Syncro 2.1 litre

Empty 3661 (3689) 1793 1867 Observed empty 4045 (4109) 1982 2063 Cargo weight 1929 Implied GVWR* 5590

(*meaning empty + cargo)

Non-Syncro, Non-Camper

Empty 3670

Road and Track states that Syncro adds 330 lbs to the 3670 non syncro Vanagon and the camper adds 350 lbs as well.

TRANSLATING DEGREES, MINUTES, AND INCHES:

Degrees Minutes Inches 0.01* = 0.6' = 0.005" 0.0165* = 1' = 0.00825" 0.025* = 1.5' = 0.0125" 0.05* = 3' = 0.025" 0.10* = 6' = 0.05" 0.167* = 10' = 0.0825" 0.25* = 15' = 0.125" 0.5* = 30' = 0.25" 0.75* = 45' = 0.375" 1* = 60' = 0.50"

Degrees devided by 2 = inches 2* = 1.00" 3* = 1.50" 4* = 2.00" 5* = 2.50"

Inches to Minutes 1.00" = 15'

Derek Drew 487 Columbus Ave. #3R New York, NY 10024 212-580-4459 Internet: derekdrew@aol.com

Malcolm Stebbins wrote:

> Before I took it in to get it aligned I tried to check out what was > posted on the web. On some web page someplace (I forget where) , there > was a hot link to "Syncro Alignment" but every time I clicked on it, it > came up "no data in file" - or some such. > > Can anyone confirm Sam Scholten's observation (no offence Sam)?? > Any hints/tips for alignments for Syncros (or a web page?) > > Thanks Malcolm Stebbins


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