Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:21:42 -0700
Reply-To:     Sam Scholten <vwvanagon@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <Vanagon@vanagon.com>
From:         Sam Scholten <vwvanagon@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Off-line archives: Issues and Answers
Comments: To: Vanagon@VANAGON.COM
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Looks like time for me to get into this one. :(

If the authors (us listees) and the administrators both hold the
copyright, than to release the material to put in the archives CD-ROM,
we would all have to grant clearance, right? I've dealt with copyright
myself, so I know how this fun stuff works...

If what Vanagon.com does is legal and in the clear, than any profits
made are purely at their discretion to use, from a legal standpoint.
If it isn't, than they will have to hand each of us listees a royalty
check prorated to the amount of bandwidth we use, or be sued. I can't
wait to get my $0.02 back, in a check.

It would be best to just go ahead and consult a lawyer who deals with
intellectual property on a consistent basis before proceeding with
this. I personally don't care about my stuff- I didn't write a book or
record album for this list- but, as mentioned earlier, Mr. Walker's
corpus is here, and he and some others must care a great deal about
their intellectual property being plundered.

If I am wrong, I will gladly stand corrected.

Happy Easter,
Sam


---Ken Hooper <bighouse@TYPE2.COM> wrote:
>
> >Q)  How can you grab the copyright for the stuff I write?
> >
> >A)  That's not what we're doing.
>
> Yes, Ron, I'm afraid it is exactly what you're doing:
>
> >      The vanagon mailing list archives are copyright © 1994-1998,
> >      with the author and the vanagon mailing list administrators
> >      holding the copyright.
>
> You have asserted in public, in writing, that you own the copyright
(along
> with the author) to everything ever posted to the Vanagon list. You
have
> also asserted that you may sell copies of those messages, for your
sole
> profit (not the author's), if you so please, without permission of the
> authors.
>
> Whether you intend to spend the money on the list server (or
whatever) is
> irrelevant--if you spent the money on beer and cigarettes it would
have no
> bearing on your claim to the rights to the work.
>
> >Some folks are really freaking out
>
> Some folks really are.
>
> --Ken
>   68 Westy, Admin --type2-- The Volkswagen Bus Mailing List
>

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