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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 23:40:37 -0400
Reply-To:     John Anderson <vwbus@MINDSPRING.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <Vanagon@vanagon.com>
From:         John Anderson <vwbus@MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject:      Re: K&N filters (Dyno'ed '71 911 +4hp)
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>I'm sure they would not be so hooked on them, from Baja racers to >formula cars, if they felt they would pass any size particulates (silica >or whatever) that would scuff their rings/barrels to any signifacant >measure.

You will be hard pressed to find an informed person with a turbocharged vehicle running a K&N on a normal streetable vehicle, particularly one who wants over 100k out of the turbo (no reason why 200k isn't possible even on something like an early air cooled Audi turbo with regular oil and air filter changes). Remember engines (bearings) are a lot more durable than turbos, this basically is all I said. IMHO no way you are getting the filtration of quality German OEM pleated filter, but it probably isn't even an order of magnitude difference so the potential trade is up to the individual, a few barely percieved hp, the kind of thing you might simply get from say warm day to cool day or doing the damndest to prolong the life of expensive hardware. I'll note even K&N's literature made no superior filtration claims when last I looked extensively (4 years ago with the G60.) Sure racers, nearly every NASCAR car running, and the like use em daily, and rebuild often for other reasons. And in admission I use one on the Scirocco and have on most of my normally aspirated inline 4 VW's, but those are cheap engines, and frankly I'm probably not seeing much increase in performance, I've been meaning to run some comparisons on a friends chassis dyno but have never found the time. I guess that is where it sort of boils down, VW engines are durable, real durable and when normally aspirated probably capable of runing extreme times with even totally inadequate filtration, but it comes down to your call, on the G60 I was anal, on a normal 1.7 I'm not, but I likely imagine any improvement. And still on 911 engine if I were paying $1500 or more for a set of pistons and liners, and being air/oil cooled, I'd run the best damn filtration available every day and the hell with a few hp, the way I drive more track time would be a better benefit than a bit more power.

John


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