Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:14:40 -0400
Reply-To: Martin Jagersand <jag@CS.ROCHESTER.EDU>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <Vanagon@vanagon.com>
From: Martin Jagersand <jag@CS.ROCHESTER.EDU>
Subject: 1.9l Turbo Diesel Group purchase.
I'm planning to take the jump and upgrade to a 1.9l Turbo
Diesel engine. I've got some contacts with sources for these,
and I thought I was going to check with the list if there
was any interest in a group purchase. The idea would be to get
enough orders to get good (near whole sale) prices on the engines
and a favorable delivery cost.
More in detail I'm planning to swap in a 1.9l TD engine.
That's not a TDI, but the same indirect injection engine
that has been available in Canada in post '93 (I think)
Volkswagens.
Why not a TDI? The 1.9 TD is a much more straightforward swap.
It's easier to get and less expensive. One of the reasons I like Diesels
is that I don't have to bother with complicated electronic fuel
injection systems, lots of electric sensors etc. The only connections needed
to run the TD is the starter and fuel shutoff solenoid. The
TDI is unfortunately every bit as complicated as electronic
fuel injected gas engine.
To fit the 1.9 TD one needs either:
1/ Swap into a Diesel Vanagon or the diesel specific parts from a
diesel Vanagon (Engine mounts, oil pan, oil pump, bell housing).
or
2/ Get an adaptor kit from KEP.
I'm doimg 1/ because I've already got a Diesel. Except for three
issues the swap is a "bolt on" of the Diesel engine combined
with the Diesel Vanagon parts.
1/ and 2/ Exhaust and intake: These need to be custom made.
Not a big deal.
3/ Depending on which turbo unit (Garrett or KKK) the
engine has there may be an interference problem between
the left motor mount and the turbo waste gate. This can
be solved by a special motor mount (import from Germany,
or custom make), or with A2 (Quantum) manifolds. (They will
bolt up, buit cause a slight performance penalty. The 1.9
engine has a better flowing D-port head than the older
Quantum manifolds.)
Back to the group purchase. It would be for the 1.9l TD engine only.
The industrial version lists for $3500 from VW. Used 1.9l TD's from
Canadian wreckers are around $2000. I'm looking for a group
purchase price for new engines somewhere inbetween. If you're
interested please let me know. However please don't hit that
reply button just as a reflex. First think if you're really
interested in going through with this.
For an account by someone who did this swap, see my TD pages,
and click on Bob Bellanca, or type in this link:
http://www.cs.yale.edu/users/jag/vw/tdiswap/bellanca.html
/Martin
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Martin Jagersand email: jag@cs.rochester.edu
Computer Science Department
University of Rochester
Slow down and visit the VW diesel Westy page:
WWW: http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/jag/vw