Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 04:30:51 -0500
Reply-To: Max/Joyce Wellhouse <maxjoyce@IPA.NET>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <Vanagon@vanagon.com>
From: Max/Joyce Wellhouse <maxjoyce@IPA.NET>
Subject: Re: REPOST! ECU CHIP AND ROCKERS UPGRADE!!!!
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I'd likew to know how the $825 is broken down into the 3 facets of the kit;
rockers, pushrods, and chip. Performance chips for cheys can be bought for
under$100 just about anywhere, and figure $225 for the ratio rockers, that
leaves $600 for the chip. Who's zoomin' who? MPG info on new kit would be
helpful as well. Torque increase? Inquiring minds want to know.
Dimwitted Moose and Flying Suirrel
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> From: Scott McDonell <scott@KONNECTIONS.COM>
> To: Vanagon@VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: REPOST! ECU CHIP AND ROCKERS UPGRADE!!!!
> Date: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 4:53 PM
>
> I'm with Derek. Kyle should create a page off his website that has the
dyno
> results, specifics on each component, and a easy to find [ORDER] button.
>
> The first thing I'd like to know is how I ascertain that I have the
correct
> 022D ECU that Kyle mentions.
>
> Scott
>
> Derek Drew wrote:
>
> > Kyle, you are sitting on a goldmine here, but you have to tweek
credibility
> > to open the floodgates.
> >
> > Why don't you send a loaner up to Dennis Haynes for an impartial
> > analysis/test. All you have to do is get some testimonials from the
list
> > heavyweights and we will all buy these from you. You will get 50
orders, I
> > bet. But you need 3rd party verification.
> >
> > I had indeed forgotton about this post, and you are right to repost it
> > pointing out that it was not a joke. But we need to get some
> > engineering-related discussions going.
> >
> > Why don't you reformulate your post so that it discusses all the
issues. A
> > post like this is so outrageous, you need to give us a lot, like, 5
pages
> > of analysis on it.You've got to jumpstart us onto this topic. I might
> > consider installing it, but any list heavyweight will do.
> >
> > Also, stop reporting that 30% horsepower increase figure without
backing it
> > up better. You strain credibility by quoting an outrageous figure like
that
> > without backing it up.
> >
> > If you say you have dyno test results you can report, then report them.
> >
> > Hey, listies, has Kyle lost his marbles here or what?
> >
> > At 01:07 PM 4/14/98 -0700, you wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Listees,
> > >>
> > >> Below is the original POST from 4/1/98. IT WAS NOT an April Fools
> > Joke!!!
> > >>
> > >> The info is true, I will be able to prduce this "Kit" for anyone
who
> > wants it and has the correct ecu, (025 906 022D!)
> > >>
> > >
> > > REPOST!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >> I've successfully completed our first ECU chip upgrade (022d ECU's
> > >> ONLY!) along withinstallation of Ratio Rockers and a set of
Chromoly
> > >> push rods.
> > >>
> > >> I'm putting together a "Kit" of the necessary parts to do this
> > >> "Upgrade".
> > >>
> > >> The kit will include;
> > >>
> > >> ECU Prom Chip
> > >> Chromoly Pushrods cut to correct length
> > >> Gene Berg Ratio Rockers.
> > >>
> > >> The install of this will require someone that can adjust Hydraulic
> > >> Valves correctly and someone that can open up the ECU and remove the
> > >> Prom chip and install the "Upgrade Chip".
> > >>
> > >> There will be a small amount of instructions included with the
"kit"
> > >> but for the most part if the person installing the rocker has done
it
> > >> before on any other Hydraulic VW engine it should be straight
forward.
> > >>
> > >> The "Kit" price will be $825.00 Plus S&H.
> > >>
> > >> I have Dyno Specs to show the increases this will give, and you'll
get
> > >> even more performance if you use triple electrode plugs, a K&N
filter
> > >> and Magna Core wires.
> > >>
> > >> From the seat of my friends pants he would say about a 30%
increase in
> > >> power in his SYNCRO SINGLE CAB. He has also been carrying a bunch
of
> > >> tools with him and hasn't had a chance to run it "Unloaded.
> > >>
> > >> Yes a Single Cab Syncro weighs less than a Westy or even a 7-9
> > >> passenger vanagon, but the fact remains the same, A great deal of
Horse
> > >> Power increase and that's what many of US are looking for!!
> > >>
> > >> If you're interested in one of these kits, I need to confirm a
number
> > >> of people so I can do the first run of kits.
> > >>
> > >> I'm ready to do this, I have all the knowledge and tooling to do
this,
> > >> I just need to know how many people want a kit??
> > >
> > >--
> > >
> > > Kyle Wade (408) 426-1431 OR (408) 429-9424
> > > Keeper of the Volks-Motorsports page
> > > Home Page - http://www.volks-motorsports.com
> > > ICQ # 3882975
> > >
> > ________________________________________________________
> > Derek Drew New York, NY & Washington, DC
> > drew@interport.net
> > '90 Syncro Westfalia...
> > ...seen off-road at http://www.tiu.net/~des/vw/drew/index.html
> > Note: most valuable Vanagon site on the planet (for owners) is
> > http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?S1=vanagon
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