Date:         Sun, 24 May 1998 09:29:47 -0400
Reply-To:     PAT <pdooley@GTE.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <Vanagon@vanagon.com>
From:         PAT <pdooley@GTE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Used Diesel Vanagon Popularity in Europe?
Comments: To: Vanagon@VANAGON.COM
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I was just gonna mention that VW diesels and the stuff GM made in the early
eighties are not in the same ballpark, but Mark seems to have made a more
thorough response.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Thoma <TVReporter@STRATOS.NET>
To: Vanagon@VANAGON.COM <Vanagon@VANAGON.COM>
Date: Sunday, May 24, 1998 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: Used Diesel Vanagon Popularity in Europe?


>Steve,
>Your post is obviously worth quite a lot less than 2 cents.  I'm figuring
>completely worthless actually.  The volkwagon 1.6 diesel is obviously every
>bit as good as the Benz or Cat diesel, as it's been successfully used in
>hundreds of thousands if not millions of rabbits and jetta worldwide, many
>of which are still running.  If the engine failed in the Vanagon aplication
>it might have been because the owners tried to make it perform like it's
>higher rpm gasoline cousin.  These engines will not live long at 5000 rpm.
>But I'm soooooo tired of obviously pretty ignorant people continuing to
feed
>the misconception that volkswagon diesels are somehow underpowered junk.  A
>few months ago I towed a broken  diesel vanagon from Philadelphia to
>Cleveland with my 1.6 litre rabbit pick-up turbo-diesel.  Could a gas
>engined rabbit have done the same thing?
>Keep your two cents!!!  You'll need it when fuel prices start to rise.
>thoma
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steven Broomhead <broom-sr@SWBELL.NET>
>To: Vanagon@VANAGON.COM <Vanagon@VANAGON.COM>
>Date: Sunday, May 24, 1998 3:13 AM
>Subject: Re: Used Diesel Vanagon Popularity in Europe?
>
>
>>Examine the statement and you get two possible outcomes:
>>
>>#1  diesels are gaining popularity, fuel prices, torque for steep streets,
>etc
>>              OR
>>#2 the VW diesels do not withstand the punishment meted them.  A lot like
>the
>>Oldsmobile diesel of the early 80's with their breakdown and high repair
>>cost..  Maybe they cannot make diesels like Mercedes or Catapillar.
>>
>>.00002 cents worth 8~}
>>
>>S. Broomhead
>>
>>Marvin Westenburg wrote:
>>
>>> When I picked up my '82 diesel in Hanover, we took a factory tour. The
>tour
>>> guide said that 80 per cent  of their production was diesel.
>>>
>>> Marve
>>>  <><
>>> '82 diesel Vanagon
>>> '95 EVC
>>
>>