Date:         Wed, 27 May 1998 09:25:03 -0400
Reply-To:     Mark Rokus <marokus@VOYAGER.NET>
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From:         Mark Rokus <marokus@VOYAGER.NET>
Subject:      Re: Transporter designations
Comments: To: Douglas Martin <douglas.martin@USA.NET>
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And don't forget the 411's and 412's.  Sedans in the early seventies that also
used a similar motor to the 914.  A combination Porsche/VW engine that we came
to love in our '73-'82~ transporters and A/C vanagons.  Commonly refered to as a
type 4 motor.
mark

Douglas Martin wrote:

> Date:   Wed, 27 May 1998 00:16:29 EDT
> From:   Blbachman <Blbachman@AOL.COM>
> Subject:        trivia question
>
> My logical mind says:
> T1 Transporter = split screen (to 1967)
> T2 Transporter = Bread Loaf/Bay Window (to 1979?)
> T3 Transporter = Vanagon (to 1991)
> T4 Transporter = Eurovan
> Yet I keep finding references to the Vanagon as a T2 Transporter.
> What gives?  Mistake on someone else's part?
> -Blaine
> These designations are correct. The confusion stems from the fact that all
> T1, T2, T3's were designated by VW in the air-cooled days as Type II
> vehicles. Beginning with the third generation Type II, someone got the
> brilliant idea that they should give the North American version the cutesy
> name of "Vanagon," but in the rest of the great wide world it is still
> simply a Type II. With the advent of the fourth generation, VW dropped the
> Type II designation in favor of T4, or fourth generation Transporter. In
> keeping with the cutesy tradition, NA vehicles were called "EuroVan." This
> new moniker was then retroactively applied to the earlier Transporters, ergo
> T1, T2, and T3. To further confuse matters, some people use the designation
> T2 incorrectly to mean Type II, which in reality applies to all Transporters
> prior to the fourth generation. So, yes, the Yanks' Vanagon is a Type II,
> but only the second generation 1968-79 (so-called baywindows) are actually a
> T2.
>
> -Doug