Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 1998 23:27:19 -0400
Reply-To:     PAT <pdooley@GTE.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <Vanagon@vanagon.com>
From:         PAT <pdooley@GTE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Rear Drum
Comments: To: Vanagon@VANAGON.COM
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Don't feel bad Mark, your way of doing the brakes has merit.  If the hub
flange interferes with the brake hardware, taking the hub off would make the
job easier.  Not to say I advocate removing hubs, but that may be why
Bentley recommended it.
A note to newbies on Bentley manual: don't believe everything you read about
required special tools.  Most of it is BS.  I have successfully performed
many repairs without half of the "required" tools.
My friend was actually more intimidated of his Jetta after reading his
Bentley.  We rebuilt his CV joints with hardly any of the tools Bentley
recommends.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark McCulley <raven@HALCYON.COM>
To: Vanagon@VANAGON.COM <Vanagon@VANAGON.COM>
Date: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: Rear Drum


>Well Eric I thought I had the "experts" but I guess I was wrong. I have
done
>this job myself (only once though) and I removed the wheel hubs--probably
>because the official manual (Bentley) says to remove the wheel hub.
>Apparently Bentley is incorrect in this matter. Fortunately the nature of
>the list allows incorrect advice to be corrected, usually before any harm
is
>done. Very few of us on this list are true experts or professional VW
>mechanics.
>
>I stand corrected.
>
>Mark McCulley
>
>
>At 07:52 AM 6/9/98 -0400, EMZ wrote:
>>This list is getting BAD!
>>You do not have to use a puller on anything.
>>You don't have to take the center nut off.
>>It may make things a bit easier but removing the center nut
>>is just as hard!
>>
>>IF you don't have the experts your self STAY THE "     " off the
>>    list!
>>No wonder we  have lost many good people.
>>            Eric                   86-VW4x4
>>            vw4x4@fyi.net          72-240z
>>            Pittsburgh, PA USA     1936-Chrysler
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Mark McCulley wrote:
>>
>>> At 12:51 AM 6/9/98 EDT, Tim Gardner wrote:
>>> >Today I checked out my Bentley manuel and noticed that sussposidly to
do the
>>> >rear shoes you need to use a wheel puller?  I then went outside with my
>father
>>> >and checked out the brakes and how to get at them.  Im not sure if this
is
>>> >syncro spectfic but there is a pin that holds a large nut and the hub.
Now
>>> >this must be removed inorder to replace the rear shoes?  Do I need the
wheel
>>> >puller or can I just bend the pin, take it out and unscrew the nut that
>holds
>>> >the hub on?  Please help me out with how to do this.  Thank you for any
>>> >information.
>>> >
>>> Yes, you do have to remove the hub to replace the rear shoes. Before
jacking
>>> the car up, remove the cotter pin and loosen the axel nut. You will need
the
>>> proper socket (46mm I think) and a big breaker bar to get this sucker
>>> loose--it's torque spec is 369 ft lbs. Break both axel nuts loose while
all
>>> the wheels are on the ground. Then follow the procedure detailed in the
>>> Bentley manual. You might want to consider having the drums turned and
>>> rebuilding wheel cylinders if that hasn't been done for a while.
>>>
>>> After putting things back together, get the axel nuts good and tight
before
>>> lowering the van and then be sure torque them to spec with the rear
wheels
>>> back on the ground.
>>>
>>> MM
>>>
>>