Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 17:53:13 -0700
Reply-To: David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
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From: David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
Subject: Re: 14" vs 16" Syncro suspensions
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At 10:44 6/12/98 -0400, Derek Drew wrote:
>Actually, from all my research, I believe I determined that the springs are
>the same on both 14" and 16", and the shocks are different, but only in
>being stiffer. Therefore, there appears to be no suspension lift at all on
>the the 16"!!!!
>
>All the lift seems to come from the taller tires, which are made possible
>by the 6.17 gearing, which consequently I now covet.
I think this cannot be true. All the pictures I have seen of 16" Syncros
look like the centre of the tires are farther away from the fender lip.
Perhaps this is a illusion caused by the fender flairs. Also the front CVs
are bigger to allow more suspension travel. If it is all the same
dimentions why more suspension travel? The VW dealer here is looking into
CV joint issue for me. I am seeing what larger (Audi) drive flange fits
into the front differential and the transmission.
>The ticket seems to be Seikel springs, would would raise the van, in
>effect, by being stiffer. But these are aftermarket, sort of, as they are
>not in any fiche. Althouth Seikel is sanctioned by SDP, so it is a stretch
>to call him aftermarket.
Where do we get these springs? How much do they raise the Van? If they
(Seikel) are of German origin I have a friend who can buy these for me and
ship them to Canada. Perhaps a group purchase could be in order.
>At 11:24 PM 6/11/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>>From what I can tell the suspension differences between the 14" and 16"
>>syncros are few. It seems that there is only a suspension lift on the 16"
>>to make it ride higher and an enlarged trailing arm (2 cm) to accmidate the
>>larger tires 205/80 16" tires.
>>
>>So here are some questions:
>>
>>What is the increased length components in the front suspension assembly?
>>Is it the springs, the struts or a combination of both? Same question for
>>the rear suspension. I know the CVs are bigger and axle shafts are
>>slightly longer in front but this seems to be the only changes (besides
>>larger fender openings) to set the 16" aside from the 14" syncros.
>>
>>If it is as simple as longer springs then it is no problem to get these
>>made up. I had a pair of progressive rate springs made up for my Rabbit PU
>>for about $250 Canadian.
>>
>>If it is a taller strut then I assume someone like the Bus Depot should be
>>able to import these from Germany if we organised a group purchase.
>>
>>The CVs and axles are supposed to be a combo of Audi 100/5000T and Porsche
>>944T??. I will find this out later this summer at the Vancouver VW show or
>>sooner if I can play in the parts bin at the VW dealership.
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