Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:54:38 EDT
Reply-To: SkyCruizer@AOL.COM
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <Vanagon@vanagon.com>
From: Don Griffin <SkyCruizer@AOL.COM>
Subject: Itsy bit O'Confusion (lengthy but hope this clears it up)
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Hey there Guys and Gals,
Just wanted ta clear up some of the confusion. Sorry if it seems a little
lengthy but hopefully it'll make it easier ta follow. My name is Don and I'm
SkyCruizer. The guy I offended with my post that had the word "Kraut Spark"
in it is Modl6971@aol.com (I think his name is Mike or Michael Modl) Correct
me if I'm wrong as I don't know him personally.
I hope this"ll help ta clarify things and THANKS to all for the PM and
support. I DO love the lists and believe everyone's entitled to their
opinions and there's no better medium than this. The info here can't be beat
either.
Well, I hope the following will help clear things up. Again sorry about the
length but wanted ta stop the confusion. If read all the way thru I think this
will help.
Later man and read on,
Don (SkyCruizer) one and the same
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In a message dated 7/9/98 4:52:19 AM Central Daylight Time, EME@bs.hup.de
writes:
<< Hey guys,
take it easy! I mean, hey, "SkyCruizer", what are you offended
about? Pretty much of you reply is quite offensive too, "vanagerm"
for instance. Me, I'm a German who's not offended by the term
"Kraut". Now, if you were to call me "Nazi", I would be... but
"Kraut" I perceive to be more of a nnickname than anything else.
And Don, PLEASE don't get politically correct... I think the whole PC
business is the single most stupid thing that language developed in
this century. Merely using other terms does not change thinking. If
you call someone "mentally challenged" instead of dumb, what would
that change? The attitude is what counts, not the words you use. In
this sense, I consider your use of the term "Kraut" about a gazillion
times less offensive than the reply from "SkyCruizer".
So, take it easy. It's okay to say so when you're offended, but...
did it really need to be in a that offensive manner? ;-)
Sorry for interfering, but I needed to get this off my chest.
SkyCruizer@aol.com wrote to the Type 2 mailing list:
> Point well taken and my apologies to you and the list.
>
> I don't think the NAPAman meant it in derogatory manner but I guess I
> shouldn't have repeated that terminology to the list. I'm sorry for
anybody
> that I may have offended with this post and will try to be more PC in the
> future.
>
> Sorry Man,
>
> Don
Yours,
Erik. -- >>
Hey Erik,
Thanks for the post. My name is Don and I am SkyCruizer. It was Modl6971 (I
think his name is Mike or Michael Modl) who said he was offended by my post
and wrote the following:
> In a message dated 7/3/98 2:14:11 AM Central Daylight Time, Modl6971 writes:
>> I'm offended by the term "Kraut spark plugs". In the land of the round
>> door knobs, (America), and everything else built HALF ASS, you drove your
>> Kraut vanagerm to shit hole Napa, to be helped by BuBu, who should off
sold
>> you some peace crap "Krapa spark plugs" (Autolites) put together by a
bunch
>> of white trash red-necks. "How about some Krapa Autolite shit fire white
>> trash red-neck plugs for your Vanagerm SIR" Don, if you think every
>> german is a kraut, than every american is a lazy, fat, white trash, camero
>> hair, red neck looooooooooooossssssser !!!
>> Get my point.
>
I guess I'd better post this to the lists as a lot of the people I received PM
from were under the same impression.
Thanks for the support though as I was beginning to feel I'd stepped on some
toes and that was not at all my intention.
Later man,
Don (SkyCruizer) one and the same.