Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 20:51:21 -0400
Reply-To: Nitaino <nitaino@SPRINTMAIL.COM>
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From: Nitaino <nitaino@SPRINTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Trying to re-fix my starter
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Well I finally got the starter rewired without the relay. I bought a
continuity tester and boy is that the best $4 I ever spent. It turned out
everything was fine. I just had to find out what was what and now it starts
without the relay. Now my next question:
How do I install the relay?
I have a Bosch relay and apparently I did not wire it correctly. It has the
87,86,85,30(ground) terminals. I have absolutely no idea how a relay works.
I know what it does and that's about it.
Nate El Great
MY VAN STARTS LIKE A NORMAL CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Skerbitz [mailto:gsker@x139-110.med.umn.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 17, 1998 12:43 PM
To: Nitaino
Subject: Re: Trying to re-fix my starter
Scratch my last questioning line. I thought you meant it didn't start. Not
that it had the classic not turning over problem.
I had the same not turning over problem. I ended up putting a relay in the
engine compartment. The relay only increased the current to the solenoid
and
starter until the solenoid fully activated. At that point, the current
should
almost all be going through the battery direct connection. The relay I used
was the same as the fuel pump relay. I just happened to have some spares of
those and a nice mounting.
Dan Houg struggled with the relay concept for a while and finally gave up
and
had his starter rebuilt. That was the only thing that solved the problem,
so
you're probably right to give up on that line if you've attempted it.
Once you've got your ignition switch working (did you buy a new one?) you
might try doing the relay thing manually before messing with mounting and
installing a relay.
On Fri, 17 Jul 1998, Nitaino wrote:
> Well after attempting to replace the starter relay myself, I have
completely
> given up on fixing the infamous starting bug. Now, I would like to bring
it
> back to what it was when the relay was not in place.
>
> The starter has two terminals, 30 and 50. T30 has two cables attached to
it
> and T50 has one. From what I understand, the ignition cable is a
red/black
> cable and it goes to T50. T30 has two red cables, one comes directly from
> the battery but I don't know where the other goes. This brings me to the
> next question, which cables within the ignition switch harness handle the
> starter? My switch has about 5 wires but the ones I am curious about are
> three: 1 thick red wire and 2 red/black wires going into the same hole.
>
> I guess what I am looking for a wiring break down for the ignition switch
> and starter so that I can begin testing cables. I have this desire to
have
> a normal starting van one day instead of using the door bell button setup
I
> have right now.
>
> My goal is to eventually wire in a relay once I can confirm everything is
> working well.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Nate El Great
> 85 GL, 186k miles with door bell starter
>
--
Gerry
Gerald Skerbitz <g-sker@umn.edu>
U of MN Academic Health Center Administrative Information Systems 6-5379
Home St. Paul,Ramsey County,Minnesota, USA
