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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:59:52 -0700
Reply-To:     DAVID MOST <most@UCLA.EDU>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <Vanagon@vanagon.com>
From:         DAVID MOST <most@UCLA.EDU>
Subject:      more on salvage title
Comments: To: Vanagon@VANAGON.COM
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Thanks to all who have replied thus far. A couple of you have wondered why the vanagon would be considered totalled if the drivability hasn't been affected. It is my understanding that the damage included the front body panel (above the grills), the radiator, condenser, windshield, the grills (at least the top one), and the entire dashboard. The owner had the radiator replaced 2000 miles away from home (where the accident hapened), and drove it home expecting to keep it after doing some repairs. (By the way, the insurance company gave him 10,000 for it, andhe had to pay 2,500 to get it back). Also, he had his wife and kids with him, and I don't think he would have made the trip home if there was real structural damage. The windshield and body work was done to make it look as good as new. He also just had a new front fan installed when I showed him that it wasn't quite running that well. It turns out that after doing these repairs, the owner found a mint syncro westfalia with 30,000 miles. So, now he has 2 vanagons in his driveway.

In any case, if you go a dealer and estimate how much it would cost to replace the entire front dash (and the other parts mentioned), you may (or may not) be surprised a how muchthis would cost. It's not unusual for body damage caused in an accident to lead to costs exceeding the "value" of the vehicle. The dashboard is very expsensive, and though there's some very slight curvature due to the accident, I wouldn't consider it a problem. By the way, the front bumper didn't have any damage.

The current owner figured that I wouldn't want to buy it without the A/C, and the salvage title could be a problem in some states. However, I believe that the vanagon is structurally sound. I would like to understand why the condenser can't be installed given that it has a new radiator and cooling fan, and I think the dealer where most ofthe work has been performed cananswer this question. This part sounds a bit strange however.

I hope this additional info helps in providing any additional advice. I realize that more info would help, but I can say that if you saw and drove this vanagon, unless someone told you, you wouldn't know that it had encountered a deer in Montana.

Thanks again, david


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