Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 23:57:24 -0100
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From: The Bus Depot <ron@NETCARRIER.COM>
Subject: Re: Bently manual??
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> I've been on the list less than a week, but have noticed talk
> about using the Bentley Have I got it correct that this is a manual
> for the repair of the vanagons? I wasn't certain
> whos to buy, ie: clymer, haynes, or Bentley???
The Bentley manual is the "official" factory service manual for the Vanagon
(the one sold by the dealer for $90). I sell it for $63.95. The Haynes
manual is supposedly sold only in England, but I import it and sell it
stateside for $19.95 (including listmember discount), which is actually
cheaper than it sells for there. The following is offered with the warning
that if you put two Vanagon owners in a room, you will always get at least
seven opinions about anything, so I would never claim it to be the final
word. Check the archives if you'd like a sampling of opinions on the
manuals.
The Bentley manual is very detailed and complete (at 1200 pages it had
better be!). Part of this is because it covers all variations of the
Vanagon, including aircooled, diesel, Syncro, and Westy (although the latter
is primarily limited to component removal and reinstallation). The principal
downside is that it is somewhat technical in orientation, being based on a
dealer shop manual which was designed for professional mechanics.
The Haynes manual is more abbreviated (about 200 pages), but part of this is
because it covers fewer versions of the Vanagon. Features specific to the
Syncro are not covered, nor are the Westy interior, diesel, or aircooled
models (Haynes prints a different book for the latter, which I sell as
well). The 1.9 and 2.1 liter Vanagons are covered, although some minor
differences may exist since it is geared toward the version sold in England
(minor emissions differences, etc.). Haynes' approach is a little different,
as they basically take apart and reassemble a sample vehicle in order to
come up with their recommended procedures. So it is a little less
complicated and in places a bit more "real world," if a bit less detailed.
Which to buy? Price not withstanding (and considering that I have a vested
interest :-), my advice is, of course, to buy both. Seriously, I have found
both to be equally important, in that one can serve to explain a procedure
that is not clear in the other, and I personally would not settle for either
one alone. (Bear in mind that one procedure could save you the cost of both
books combined, versus paying today's shop rates for labor.) But if you were
to pick just one, I suppose it may depend on your level of techical
expertise. If you are a "seasoned" backyard mechanic, and would like the
greater detail and wider model coverage that it affords, go with the
Bentley. If not (or if your wallet will not allow), choose the Haynes, and
maybe add the Bentley later.
- Ron Salmon
The Bus Depot
http://www.busdepot.com
(215) 234-VWVW
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