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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1998 20:56:31 -0500
Reply-To:     "John H. Rodgers" <inua@QUICKLINK.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <Vanagon@vanagon.com>
From:         "John H. Rodgers" <inua@QUICKLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Web&IncreasedSales?
Comments: To: Helllll <Helllll@aol.com>
Comments: cc: Vanagon <Vanagon@VANAGON.COM>

-- [ From: John H. Rodgers * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --

I have worked with the Web a lot, studied it, read mountains of magazines and books about marketing and marketing/advertising on the Web, participated in moderated groups with international membership dealing with marketing and business on the Web. Ultimately I and many others have come to the conclusion that the state of developement of the Web and internet marketing is such that expecting web site by itself to make you money is a waste of time. There is much that has to be done to make it work. The Web sight is only a single tool out of many that you need to have in operation to make money through your web site. One of the most important elements is to make your contacts off the internet, then refer them to your web site.

It takes one or more persons working full time to keep up with the changes and adjustments in a website to keep the webcrawlers putting a website on top of the list, so it can be easily found. That is a big expense. And unless you are in the software business, it's not worth it.

You are ahead of the game to buy the business license list from your State licensing bureau(now-a-days the complete list with all names and addresses can be had on CD rom for about $100) and sent out a mailer with your business info on it, your e-mail address, and your website address. That will get more hits than expecting people to find it randomly.

You can also buy one of the CD rom phone book programs. There are yellow page and white page versions. There is good demographic data there. Names, addresses, etc. Use it. Send your web address with an invitation to visit.

You really do have to excercise marketing techniques off the web to get the website to be worth anything. Otherwise, to find your website is like trying to find a single pea in a pot full of peas, without being able to differentiate between them. And that is a waste of time and money.

Consider who you are trying to sell to also. Are they mostly other clay folk checking out your site? Sorry, I love'em all, God bless'em, but with only a few exceptions perhaps, they are not your target market. They are not going to make you money.

I hate to be crass about all this, but you must get really commercially focused and work out a good marketing plan. Then work your website into it. If you don't you are going to waste a lot of time and money and ultimately be doomed to failure.

It can be done, so get on with it. But do it right!

Luck!

John Rodgers '85 GL Vanagon Driver Clayartist/Moldmaker "God created His best work from clay, shall I strive to do less?"jr

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Date: Wednesday, 12-Aug-98 12:12 PM

From: Helllll \ America On-Line: (Helllll) To: Multiple recipients of list CLAYART \ Internet: (clayart@lsv.uky.edu)

Subject: Re: Web&IncreasedSales?

----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I talked to Paul Soldner about the web once,and he seemed pissed that a web site with his work on it hadn't sold a thing.... so he thinks the web is worthless... internet servers make money by selling web pages to people to advertise there stuff.. that is all well and good.... but the web is an "information highway" not an advertisement highway....i think it is good to have a web page....but you should have realistic hopes for it.....

hank over and out

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