Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:07:07 -0400
Reply-To: Frank Terhaar-Yonkers <fty@CISCO.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <Vanagon@vanagon.com>
From: Frank Terhaar-Yonkers <fty@CISCO.COM>
Subject: Re: R12 - Freon
I'm not sure of the nomenclature (FR-12 etc), they make a couple of different
products and this is the stuff that's a direct R-12 drop-in substitute.
As for temp, I haven't actually measured it, but it *seems* just as good as
it was when there was full charge of R-12.
- Frank
>Is this the stuff they call FR-12? How did it compare
>in temperature?
>
>
> Eric 86-VW4x4
> vw4x4@fyi.net 72-240z
> Pittsburgh, PA USA 1936-Chrysler
>
>
>On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, Frank Terhaar-Yonkers wrote:
>
>> Folks -
>>
>> I've been running the an R-12 (Autofrost) substitute all summer now and can
>> report that it works just fine. It's a bit more expensive that R-134 ($250 for
>> a 25lb jug) but *no* conversion is required.
>>
>> - Frank
>>
>> >Subject: Re: R12 - Freon
>> >To: Vanagon@VANAGON.COM
>> >
>> >Yes, this is true, but the fact remains that r-12 is being phased out
>> >and will someday no longer be avail in The States. Only recycled is now
>> >and it requires a special licence to be purchased. It is now very
>> >expensive.
>> >
>> >FHerzig@swri.edu wrote:
>> >
>> >> Sorry folks, but the patent on Freon ran out long ago, sometime
>> >> before 1974. At NASA-Langley we had a wind tunnel that flowed
>> >> Freon rather than air and when the patent ran out, the cost to
>> >> supply the wind tunnel dropped in half because of competition.
>> >> Patents are only for 17 years (generally, some specific situations
>> >> can modify it slightly) and Freon has been around a long time.
>> >>
>> >> Frank Herzig
>> >> '85 Vanagon, with AC but took the compressor belt off long ago.
>> >
>>
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Frank Terhaar-Yonkers
Cisco Systems, Inc.
Cat3900 Software Team
7025 Kit Creek Road PO Box 14987
Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709
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