Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 01:14:59 -0700
Reply-To: Per Lindgren <lindgre@ONLINE.NO>
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From: Per Lindgren <lindgre@ONLINE.NO>
Subject: Re: TDI, TD and 2.0L conversions
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In an past issue of VWTrends, there were an article of Neuspeeds 97 VW Passat
TDI, and while they wrote that the TDI didnt seem so quick as they thought it to
be, it was they di not know how to drive it. With maximum torque at 1900rpm, you
should shift gear at 2500rpm, because it accelerates on the torque, not the
horsepower. They also tested it on the highway against a VR6 Passat, and in the
50-70 mph, 5th gear acceleration test, the TDI was (supposedly) quicker. Ive
never personally driven a VR6 driven VW, but had the chance to drive both Golf
and Passat with TDI, I am willing to believe it.
Per Lindgren
88 Syncro
ErikO@ebyte.com wrote:
> David Marshall wrote:
>
> > I will put money on Björn's TDI (to be) winning a race against your 1.8L or
> > my 2.0L gasoline powered Vanagon. Torque is where the TDI has a *BIG*
> > advantage. There is only a few FT/Lb less torque on the TDI as there is on
> > the VR6 plus the torque peek is at 149@1900RPM where the 1.8L is 110@3200
> > and my 2.0L is 135@2600.
>
> Would you agree there is a difference between performance on paper and
> real-life driving? I've always thought so. I've driven a TDI Jetta and
> while it's a truly remarkable vehicle, I wouldn't put it even close to
> the VR6 in terms of "kick". I've always seen huge differences between
> how a car runs and how it should run. For instance, Mazda Rotary
> engines. If I announced on the list that I was going to install a RX7
> engine in my van everyone would be screaming "no low end torque",
> "that's a high RPM engine". I've met a guy in Columbus that installed
> rotary's in just about everything he owned, a bus, Vanagon, Ghia. I rode
> in the Vanagon and it was nice. You tell him his van is slow, if you can
> catch up to him.
>
> I don't want you guys to totally misunderstand me so I'm going to come
> clean. I don't believe the performance figures of ANY auto manufacturer.
> Would VW have any incentive to show a higher performance stat for their
> engines? You bet your bubble block! I'm not saying they're lying,
> cheating, stealing... I just wouldn't bet the farm that what is
> published is proof.
>
> I'm just sore because a couple months ago some jerk (from the list, but
> not anyone in the current discussion) was telling me how slow my van was
> "just HAD to be" and there was no way I could get more than 16mpg from
> my setup. He probably got all his "proof" from David's site :) I told
> him to go change his head gaskets and haven't seen him since :)
>
> After Björn finishes his van let's all get together and race, say in
> Vegas. I'll concede he'll probably beat me, but there is no way he would
> beat your 2.0L crew cab. Nah-way!
>
> (I am kind of kidding about all this racing stuff:)
>
> Has anyone offically done a TDI conversion? Will Björn be the first?
> Cool!
>
> _______________________
> Erik O Akron, Oh
> 82 GTI Westfalia
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