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Date:         Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:42:18 -0700
Reply-To:     coyote <coyote@LIKEMINDS.COM>
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From:         coyote <coyote@LIKEMINDS.COM>
Subject:      Re: If You're Against Mandatory Daytime Running Lights...
Comments: To: ray.wei@US.PWCGLOBAL.COM, Vanagon@VANAGON.COM
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>If you're the one against mandatory DRLs, please send letter to NHTSA >before it's too late! >Check http://www.lightsout.org/ for more information.

I think that mandatory DRLs are an incredibly good idea. I visited the above site, which makes a number of really stupid arguments that are easily rebutted, such as:

> Q. Will other drivers be bothered by the glare from DRLs?

> A. Again, undoubtedly. Think about how much YOU would be bothered > by oncoming headlights on an already sunny day.

Note the lack of real data here. Also note the attempt to 'argue through misinformation'. DRLs are not headlights... they're significantly dimmer. The authors attempt to imply that headlights are brighter than the sun, which is simply silly if you think about it.

> Q. How effective are DRLs?

> A. In Canada, where DRLs have been in place since 1989, the government > has done no studies but ESTIMATES that DRLs save 120 lives each year. > How can they make such an estimate with no research or data?

Hillarious. The authors select the country which has had DRLs for the shortest amount of time, and then complain because there are no studies.

Let me offer some:

http://www.pascousa.com/febs/trb/dayruli.ref.txt "Based on current data (1986), the Dutch Institute for Road Safety Research SWOV has estimated a reduction of approximately 5% in the total number of injury accidents."

"Keeping vehicle lights on to increase vehicle conspicuity during daytime hours has been found to reduce crashes in Scandinavia and the United States. Crashes of vehicles with and without daytime running lights owned by the Central Vehicle Agency of the Province of Saskatchewan were compared to a random selection of crashes drawn from provincial crash files involving vehicles without daytime running lights for the years 1982 through 1989. Daytime two-vehicle crashes involving vehicles approaching from the front or side were reduced by about 28% for the daytime running light equipped vehicles. A 28% reduction in daytime running light relevant daytime two-vehicle crashes corresponds to a 15% reduction in all daytime two-vehicle crashes. This revised report supercedes the report dated Oct. 1991."

http://www.hike.te.chiba-u.ac.jp/ikeda/CIE/publ/abst/104-93.html "Accident statistics from Finland, Sweden, Norway, USA where comparisons of vehicles with and without DRL have been carried out support the concept. The reduction of the daytime collisions due to DRL is estimated to be in the size of 10 percent."

http://sunsite.unc.edu/rdu/DRLs/studies.htm "DRLs, at sufficient levels of intensity, increase visual contrast between vehicles and their background."

"In a much larger fleet study conducted in the 1980s, more than 2,000 passenger vehicles in three fleets were equipped with DRLs.

One fleet operated in Connecticut, another in several States in the Southwest, and the third operated throughout the United States. A 7-percent reduction was found in daytime multiple-vehicle crashes in the DRL-equipped vehicles compared with control vehicles."

"Damage severity in the non-DRL group (measured in terms of cost) was 69% greater than that of the DRL-equipped fleet. Only the non-DRL vehicles experienced damage in excess of $15,000. The Avis study involved 1500 cars with DRLs, and 1500 without, representing approximately 29,000 rentals in eight cities in Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Oregon, and Washington."

Humorously, the anti-DRL web page for 'Studies' lists NO studies (http://www.lightsout.org/studies.htm), whereas I was able to find more than a dozen in minutes on the WWW. (See http://sunsite.unc.edu/rdu/DRLs/studies.htm). I assume that their page is blank because they weren't able to find any studies *supporting their position.*

Incidentally, the proposed legislation only applies to new model year cars. We wouldn't be required to retrofit older cars.

Support daytime running lights. The Vanagon you save may be your own.

Coyote

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