Date:         Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:36:33 EST
Reply-To:     David Beierl <dbeierl@IBM.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <Vanagon@vanagon.com>
From:         David Beierl <dbeierl@IBM.NET>
Subject:      '84 clutch judder
Comments: To: Vanagon Mailing List <Vanagon@VANAGON.COM>

Help!

I have an '84 Westy w/ 170k (miles) and am getting about 10k on a
clutch (third go-around).  First one went about 80,000 -- replaced
disk, plate, pilot bearing, throwout bearing. Second one replaced at
12,000, included a flywheel this time.  Third time, dealer out of
ideas, just did the standard stuff.  Ready for the fourth one now. (!)

Symptoms are: Everything silky-smooth when first replaced.  Within a
month or so, start feeling a very slight vibration in the pedal.
After a while slight juddering begins on rare occasions (more on that
below), then gets progressively noticeable until it's routine and
severe by around 12000 -- coincidentally the limit of the dealer's
warranty.  Seems to be worse in reverse and possibly when turning a
corner; definitely worse on hills, of course.

All of this is strongly affected by temperature, and I believe it's
the transmission temperature that counts.  In cold weather all is
smooth; but not in hot weather.  An hour or so on the highway will
aggravate it, and shutting it off and waiting ten minutes after that
will make it worse.  I haven't seen the motor while this is happening,
but it sounds/feels like it's about to jump out of the box.

Any thoughts?  Dealer particularly puzzled by it being worse in hot
wx, he expects the opposite.

Thanks and regards,
david

David Beierl <dbeierl@ibm.net>
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