Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:42:50 -0400
Reply-To: mike and becky <mayfly95@PAONLINE.COM>
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From: mike and becky <mayfly95@PAONLINE.COM>
Subject: Re: Fuel lines, one more time...
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Has anyone tried replacing these lines or coolant lines(hoses) with stainless
steel braided hoses?
What cost can be expected, estimated? Wouldn't these hoses last longer and be
more cost effecient in the long run?
Curious......
Mike
87 Wolf W/E
89 Jetta
87 Westy
John Anderson wrote:
> >This brings up a question I've been pondering for a while. Several times
> on
> >this list I've heard recommendations to stay away from the cotton covered
> hose.
>
> Some people have made the claim that the cotton covered hose is more subject
> to degradation from who knows, UV, ozone, whatever than the "FI" hose which
> is smooth and rubber covered. Personally I do NOT have this opinion. I
> really doubt it makes a whit of difference, seems to me that as both hoses
> are often by the same manufacturer (Continental?) there is probably no
> formulation difference whatsoever in the rubber which is what is going to be
> most importantly subject to degradation. To me it seems the cotton covered
> hose is far better reinforced as the rubber "FI" hose has much less braid
> between its rubber layers. As a totaly unscientific single point test,
> about 3 years ago I installed cotton covered hose on the '78, rubber on the
> '77, both were run about even amounts (not a lot) and subject to the same
> ambient conditions. Looking at either today shows no great difference, at
> least here in my local. Some claimed that in smog ridden areas the cloth
> covered broke down faster, like I've said, I don't know. I will say
> suprisingly I noted on the '87 the other day that the rubber covered line I
> used was already cracking a little past the clamps (you know, towards the
> joint where that last little bit of hose flares out) maybe because I
> overtightened, but neither the '77 or '78 exhibit this behavior with an
> older installation, so perhaps noted differences are due to batch and
> formulation or manufacturer. And finally VW superceded the cloth covered in
> late '76 or '77 so they thought rubber covered was superior apparently,
> though the hose they used from '77-'85 or so was not like the rubber covered
> stuff sold today, it had a striated appearance on the outside. Basically I
> say, use whatever is handy, the rubber covered is merely a phone call away
> to RMMW, Bus Depot, Old Volks Home, wherever. If the cotton covered is
> available locally (which it often is) and you need it, use it. Either way
> inspect frequently and replace maybe every 5 years? Something I wonder
> about, RMMW and other sell a blue colored hose for brake fluid resevoirs in
> the same size, has anybody ever seen this in use, I know my buses do not use
> it, perhaps I'd seen it feeding the clutch in a Vanagon or Quantum, if I
> replace the feed tube in a bus should I use this instead?
>
> John
> janderson@iolinc.net
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