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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:41:35 -0800
Reply-To:     Malcolm Holser <mholser@ADOBE.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@vanagon.com>
From:         Malcolm Holser <mholser@ADOBE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Auxiliary Gas Heater Power
Comments: To: JordanVw@AOL.COM, vanagon@VANAGON.COM
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><< If the gas heater can already be used when the engine is off, why do so > many listees go to the big expense and complicated installations for "P4" > and "Catalytic" heaters? Why not just use the VW gas heater for winter > camping?? > - >> > >ummmmm...they dont make it anymore... > >chris > Well, they _do_ still make these heaters, but the price is really steep. The old company has changed its name -- it is Espar now, and they have a web site. They make lots of heaters, but it seems only the military can afford them (with our tax dollars). Last time I looked, the appropriate heater was about $2000. They are very nice heaters, though a bit overpowered for a Vanagon -- most of these are made for heating big buses and tractors (like the big trucks). The "distributor" in the San Francisco area is not interested in VW's -- he is selling them for tanks and self-propelled howitzers. They make both air and water-cooled versions, both diesel and gasoline. Typically, their numbering goes by size, "B" means gasoline and "D" means diesel. The web site tends to list the diesel versions, but they make both in most models -- just change the "D" to a "B" if you talk to them.

All that said, these are less appropriate for camper heating than would be expected. They use a _lot_ of electricity and would draw down an auxiliary battery quickly. They produce _lots_ of heat very quickly, but are not designed for maintaining a temperature. This is appropriate for pre-heating your van before you drive off into the arctic night -- you want the van heated *now*, but will use the engine to maintain the heat.

The water-heater versions can be used to preheat an engine before starting as well. This is the main use that the big diesels put them to.

One of the main current draws on these is the glow-plug. I have been told that it is not really needed on gasoline versions until it gets fairly cold (well below freezing). On the one I plan on installing in a camper, I will be using the glow plug only when very cold, hopefully.

The other problem with the stock heaters is that they are rare. They typically are not maintained well, and they are fairly primitive in design by current standards (their newer cousins from Espar are not). They are not trouble-free and parts for them are really expansive.

Malcolm H.


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