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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 07:48:25 -0800
Reply-To:     "Pollard, Matthew" <Matthew.Pollard@OREADCA.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@vanagon.com>
From:         "Pollard, Matthew" <Matthew.Pollard@OREADCA.COM>
Subject:      Re: Warning against engine additives! was: Strange Noise Fixed,
              I think
Comments: To: vanagon@VANAGON.COM
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FYI Slick-50 is the butt end of a class action law suit. Something about not actually having any real data to back up their claims, and the "independent" labs that "tested" the junk didn't really exist. I know this because I sent in a $3.00 refund card for slick-50 and a few months later got a registered piece of mail from some lawyer saying I was part of a class action lawsuit. Took me a few beers to get the courage up to open the letter though... take care Matthew 84 Weekender that is about to embark on a long road trip 67 Bug that sits fallow in the driveway

> -----Original Message----- > From: KBatzler [SMTP:KBatzler@EMAIL.MSN.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 8:32 PM > To: vanagon@VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Warning against engine additives! was: Strange Noise > Fixed, I think > > Hi Ken, > The stuff I added is an oil detergent....I wouldn't even think of adding > anything with Teflon or slick 50 or anything thick. CD-2 has the > consistency of 20w motor oil and probably works something like Mystery > Oil. > I would like to stress that your right in the sense that I would not > recommend putting any additives in your vehicle that has no problems in > the > first place. > Also, I added CD-2 with 20w50 motor oil which I would normally add 10w40 > because I knew that CD-2 would thin out the oil a bit. > At least in my case bought me some time because the motor has about 10k on > new heads and 100k on the motor. > I hope this clears things up a bit. > Thanks > Karl Batzler > 84 Vanagon > 192k miles > La Quinta, CA > >-----Original Message----- > >From: KENWILFY@AOL.COM <KENWILFY@AOL.COM> > >To: vanagon@VANAGON.COM <vanagon@VANAGON.COM> > >Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 2:59 PM > >Subject: Warning against engine additives! was: Strange Noise Fixed, I > think > > > > > >>I am glad that Karl has found something to keep his van on the road and > I > >>wasn't going to say anything until he started encouraging other Vanagon > >owners > >>to try this stuff. I found no problem with Karl trying it since his van > >had > >>high mileage anyway (190k miles I believe) but I must warn you that as a > >>mechanic I would advise anyone with a halfway decent motor to please not > >put > >>any oil additives into thier motor (Slick 50, Motor UP, CD-2, motor > Honey, > >any > >>Teflon based additive et al). Why? These additives usually do nothing > >>beneficial in a motor (usually find it in a big clump on the bottom of > the > >oil > >>pan when it comes time to rebuild the motor) and can in fact damage a > good > >>motor by restricting oil galleys and other orifices inside the motor. I > >hear > >>very few good stories about these additives but many horror stories. > >>Just think about it: If that stuff you are pouring into your motor flows > >like > >>honey in the heat of the summer, what do you think it is doing in your > >motor > >>in the winter? > >>I can understand folks with tired motors trying these additives as a > last > >>effort to try and get another year out of their engine, but to put this > >stuff > >>in a good motor would be a crime. > >>This is my 2 cents on this subject anyway. > >>Ken Wilford > >>Van-Again > >>John 3:16 > >> > > > >


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