Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 19:13:21 -0800
Reply-To: David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
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From: David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
Subject: Re: Audi Trannies running in reverse again?
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At 07:12 23/11/98 EST, KENWILFY@AOL.COM wrote:
>OK we have discussed this thread several times here on the List and here is
>how it always goes:
>1st Person, "I wonder if this will work"
Good question...
>2nd Person, "don't forget the transmission will be going in reverse"
This is the problem...
>3rd Person, "Oh yeah, I wonder if I could use a quattro one on my Syncro
>Vanagon"
If it does work in a 2WD... why not...
>Anyway usually after a bunch of speculation and no solid facts the thread
>dies.
Then why not get some real answers?
>So the last time this came up I went to our local yard to see if the audi
>trannies were similar to ours in our Vanagons.
>Not even close.
>They are set up to mate to either a 4cylinder inline motor (Audi 4000) or a 5
>cylinder (Audi 5000). They don't have removeable bellhousings like Vanagon
>trannies (at least I couldn't see that they did and I was really looking).
>The linkage is all wrong and the case does not resemble a Vanagon
transmission
>at all.
Seeing how the wasserboxer is a bad design and most people will jump at the
chance to get a 5 cylinder in their Vanagon... so what if you can't swap
bellhousings! Bolting it physically in place would be some fancy adapters
to go to factory mounts... shift linkage - I'm sure that isn't impossible too.
>Conclusion:
>Could you get one and make it work? Possibly at great expense and who knows
>about reliability.
>There would be alot of mods necessary to get this idea to work.
>So check this out for yourselves. Don't just sit around and speculate about
>it. If I am wrong and this is somehow more feasible then please correct me.
>But if it is not a viable idea then why do we have to keep bringing it up and
>talking about it for a while and then dropping the idea? We are just chasing
>our tails and the bandwidth could be put to better use I think.
I don't consider this a waste of bandwidth - if we don't ask questions (
with revevant content even ) then why have a Vanagon list? Experts like
Todd are on the list have rebuilt more than enough transmission and could
shed some light on the subject. It is amazing that Audi and VW parts are
so alike. People told me that installing a 4 cylinder Audi engine in my
Vanagon would never work so why waste my time - heck they don't even look
the same! I have come to the realization that VW isn't going to support
the Vanagon forever. If I can use more common Audi transmission with a few
mods then why not?
I have an Audi Fox transmission... I'll disect it if someone tells me what
to look for. This will get us towards some "solid" answers.
>Ken Wilford (as he dons he flame retardant underwear...)
>Van-Again
>John 3:16
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