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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 20:29:39 -0800
Reply-To:     David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@vanagon.com>
From:         David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Reverse running transaxles, flippin this, flippin that...
Comments: To: Pat <pdooley@GTE.NET>, vanagon@VANAGON.COM
In-Reply-To:  <001a01be1764$253ee580$c6e9ffd0@loi-bear>
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Another transmission to look at is the Audi A4 transmission. I am told it is a new design that is totally different from anything previous.

At 23:10 23/11/98 -0500, Pat wrote: >>When people speculate about flipping transaxles to reverse drive direction, >my >>first concern goes to the issue of lubrication. Will that design self lub >as >>it was designed if it's upside down? I don't know. >> >I don't plan on flipping the transaxle in my application. Running a trans >upside down would probably be a challenge due to the fact that many oil >seals are positioned above the oil level. Turn it over and those seals are >now submerged in oil, may leak pretty bad. The vent is also on top, so that >would have to be plugged and a new vent cut on the underside. Then you >still need an adapter plate, unless you want to run your motor upside down. >The premise behind the Audi idea is avoiding the use of adapter parts. >Cheap, OEM parts. I would like to use a golf motor with VW fox or Audi 4000 >transmission. We have apparently ruled out the Audi 5000 transaxle, it >can't easily be reversed. The fox tranny looks symmetrical and mods may be >feasible. The 914 tranny point was raised, maybe the Fox tranny has some >deep VW roots and can stomach a diff flip. > >This whole project will probably cost more than buying a KEP adapter kit, >but the benefits are better. The KEP kit still leaves you with a 4spd. The >Audi deal if possible gives you a true five speed with highway gears that >would possibly be stronger than an 091 if done properly. >I never said any of this would be easy, but once a solution is obtained, 2 >big weaknesses of the vanagon are solved. A bulletproof motor and a stout >trans with proper gearing. This will be done without looking around the >world for parts. >All the details may not be worked out, but I'm not dropping the idea and >won't stop talking about it as long as people are interested, which seems to >be the case. >-PSD. > >

-- David Marshall -- -- 78 1.8L VW Rabbit, 80 2.0L VW Caddy, 87 Audi 5KSQ -- -- 85 VW Cabriolet, 88 2.0L VW Syncro 16" Double Cab -- -- Volkswagen Homepage http://www.volkswagen.org -- -- Volkswagen/Audi Parts http://parts.volkswagen.org -- -- mailto:david@volkswagen.org - Quesnel, BC, Canada --


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