Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:07:37 -0800
Reply-To:     Austin <austins@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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From:         Austin <austins@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speedbleeders Sizes for 84 Vanagon
Comments: To: vanagon@vanagon.com, "Thomas D. Hanlon"
          <hanran.inc@INTERNETMCI.COM>
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At 04:09 PM 11/24/98 -0800, you wrote:
>
>Has anyone purchased Speedbleeders for an 84 Westfalia Vanagon from
>speedbleeders.com?
>
>The Speedbleeders for the slave cylinder, SB6100, fit perfectly, and the
>rebuilt clutch slave cylinder is operative.  But that is another message
>on another subject which I will post later.
>
>The Speedbleeders for the rear wheel cylinders did not fit.
>
>The person at Speedbleeder checked the conversion chart from VW's stock
>numbers for the front bleeder screws; and she assured me that the
>dimension, 7 mm x 1.00 thread pitch, was correct..
>VW dealer gives 113 615 273 A, as the VW part number.
>
>She  further assured me that the 8 mm x 1.25 thread pitch for the rear
>bleeder was correct.
>VW dealer gives 211-611-477 A, as the VW part number
>
>I did not check the front wheel cylinders,  because I didn't want to
>open the system and have go through the bleeding process a second time,
>in the event the front Speedbleeder did not fit, either..
>
>Does anyone on the List have access to that information?  If I have the
>specs, then Speedbleeder can perform.
>
>Tom Hanlon



Before I ordered mine (retentive nitpicker that I am), I pulled the stock
bleeders from 1 ea front caliper, rear drum, & the clutch slave, & found as
follows:

front (Girling) calipers - 7 X 1.0 (S.B. #SB7100)
rear (stock VW) drums - 6 X 1.0 (S.B. #6100)
clutch slave (stock VW) - 6 X 1.0 (S.B. #6100)

i.e. - order 3 ea. #SB6100, & 2 ea. #SB7100; This is for an '87 GL, 2WD.
Speedbleeder *does* list different ones, maybe for other Vanagons (?), but
an initial glance showed that the rear drums bleeders were noticeably
smaller than those in the front calipers, which is why I went to the
trouble of actually pulling & checking.

(BTW, I didn't have to bleed after measuring; as I pulled the stock
bleeders, a small amount of fluid would drain until I sealed the threaded
hole with a cone shaped rubber plug...little more leaked while doing the
reverse - in a properly operating brake system, the drained fluid is
replaced from the master cylinder reservoir, not from air going into the
slave from the opened hole. (BUT that is NOT an excuse to not bleed if
necessary !!!).

Austin