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Date:         Wed, 25 Nov 1998 21:47:41 +0200
Reply-To:     Jimmy Sanby <Sanbyj@TELKOM.CO.ZA>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@vanagon.com>
From:         Jimmy Sanby <Sanbyj@TELKOM.CO.ZA>
Subject:      Re: Syncro front axle spline damage problem
Comments: To: wolfgang@ISLAND.NET, vanagon@VANAGON.COM

I have just been through replacing 3 front and 2 back CV's so here is my two cents.....

My front Inner CV outer circumference is 100mm Rear Inner and Outer CV's are the same at 108mm Front Outer CV outer circumference is 98mm on the widest lip. The price of the Front Inner's and Rear CV's where much the same. The Front outer CV's are the expensive ones. About double the cost of the others. The spines are totally different as well. Mine are definately not interchangeable. I think there are different versions of the front outer CV. Mine is classified as a 100mm one. The agents always ask if I have the 100mm or the 90mm.

What size CV's have the other listees got?(Well those of you who know)

When I replaced/checked the front CV's both inners and one outer needed replacing. After driving the vehicle for about 2 weeks the circlip came out whilst pulling into a parking bay. A was luckely travelling very slowly. I had to call my wife and do a roadside swap putting my old spare outer CV in and recovering the half shaft before driving home on three half shafts. After reading the manual carefully, I discovered that they recommend replacing the circlip everytime.(Don''t ask me how many times mine have been regreased/services on the same circlips) They are very cheep, less than a dollar. Needless to say I have a few spare in my garage now. There was minimal damage to the spline, and with a bit of filing, I was able to reuse the shaft. WITH A NEW CIRCLIP!

For your third question, well I can't really answer... What do you mean by a spacer ring anyway? I don't remember seeing one.

Hope this helps

Jimmy Sanby Cape Town SA '89 Syncro 15"

>>> V H Wolfgang Carolsfeld <wolfgang@ISLAND.NET> 11/25 12:31 AM >>> Three questions re: Syncro front axles :

Are the inner rear CV joints really the same as the stock inner front ones even though they have different part nos. and big price difference?

Has anyone else experienced failure of the retaining circlips for the CV joints or other cause of damage to axle splines ?

Is it possible that the rear CV joint, in the front installation (using the original spacer ring), binds somehow restricting lateral axle movement and thus pulling it out of the outer CV ?

The story that inspired the questions :

About 6 months ago I rotated tires on our 87 Syncro and temporarily had severe clacking noise from one outer front CV. I had torqued the lug nuts on while the wheel was off the ground. The noise disappeared before I could get around to ordering a new CV so I abandoned the investigation. Two weeks ago I had the front CVs regreased by the local corner VW specialist. Outer CVs were ok, one inner was replaced with a new rear type CV and severe damage of the splines on the outer end of one axle (the one that had clacked briefly in June) forced replacement of that axle. Now two weeks later the (same side)front axle has slipped out of the outer CV joint (while driving around town) and shows the same kind of wear on the end of the splines. It appears that the original retaining circlips that hold the CV joints were reused on this repack job.

Thanks for your replies, to the list, or p-mail to

wolfgang@island.net

Wolfgang Carolsfeld wondering about the local VW 'specialist'


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